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Of course they outdo ponies in terms of pure durability. Even Spike does, so its obvious teenagers do so even more. For ponies a couple of falls here and there are usually just cartoon physics when comedy requires it, while avoiding realism. But just like RD being sent to the hospital after one crash and Twilight being in a wheelchair covered in plaster casts during her unfortunate _*pinkie sense_* incident, it shows that when the plot doesn't _*require them to ignore it_*, and need the realism, such things are enough for them to be seriously hurt.


 
I don't think anyone would debate Spike's the one among the main cast who takes the most punishment and yet feels it the least. That's been pretty consistent since a long time ago. _*Spike at your Service_* even had him crushed by a rock larger than he is, and then just popping out from underneath without even being remotely dazed by it.  
And this is _*consistent_* behaviour for his character.


 
Secondly, I never said teenage dragons would be much stronger physically than adult ponies. They aren't that much bigger than them yet so it makes sense. There should be a difference, but its probably not that much. The rock example isn't exactly applicable however, because there's a big difference between picking something up yourself, and trying to remove it from ontop of your chest while laying face up on the ground. Not to mention none of that matters when one good swipe would open a pony's belly like a seashell.


 
Also, you're greatly exagerating Tom's weight. It was approximately as big as Rarity herself, if only slightly taller. Considering how big ponies are, that's not "several tons" by any means.


 
I don't think you're **really** trying to compare the Bugbear's durability with a dragon's. If so, then the level at which we've begun to cripple and underestimate these creatures has really reached critical levels.
 
The Bugbear being put in Tartarus isn't a measure of power by any means. They put if there because they captured it. That's all there is to it until further explanation. It probably was responsible for several attacks, so they decided to lock him up. Pretty sure if Garble decided to consistently show up in towns, attacking ponies and setting fire to their houses on fire, they'd eventually capture him and put him there as well.


 
"Handily" is precisely the exageration that I'm arguing against, because evidence shows exactly the opposite.
 
Like I said before, I don't doubt that she could beat Garble, but consistent evidence shows that she wouldn't just be able to instantly blast him out or magically freeze him, since that's never been the case with the many, many life/death encounters they've had with dangerous creatures before. Some of which weren't much bigger than him and several who were definetly less dangerous.


 
**PS:** I feel the comedic role they gave his character in this episode is part of the reason why people are having so many doubts about Twilight's reaction to him. It caused some to forget how dangerous his species could be if they were actually trying to hurt other creatures w/o the show's restrictions.


 
The characters in the show don't share our _*"oh its a kid's show, nothing's ever going to happen to them"_* view. They see danger as real and react accordingly. That's why ponies are historically scared of dragons.

"@Fwelin":/1136582#comment_4951445
Of course they outdo ponies in terms of pure durability. Even Spike does, so its obvious teenagers do so even more. For ponies a couple of falls here and there are usually just cartoon physics when comedy requires it, while avoiding realism. But just like RD being sent to the hospital after one crash and Twilight being in a wheelchair covered in plaster casts during her unfortunate _pinkie sense_ incident, it shows that when the plot doesn't _require them to ignore it_, and need the realism, such things are enough for them to be seriously hurt.

I don't think anyone would debate Spike's the one among the main cast who takes the most punishment and yet feels it the least. That's been pretty consistent since a long time ago. _Spike at your Service_ even had him crushed by a rock larger than he is, and then just popping out from underneath without even being remotely dazed by it. And this is _consistent_ behaviour for his character.

Secondly, I never said teenage dragons would be much stronger physically than adult ponies. They aren't that much bigger than them yet so it makes sense. There should be a difference, but its ceprtobainbly not that much. The rock example isn't exactly applicable however, because there's a big difference between picking something up yourself, and trying to remove it from ontop of your chest while laying face up on the ground. Not to mention none of that matters when one good swipe would open a pony's belly like a seashell.

Also, you're greatly exagerating Tom's weight. It was approximately as big as Rarity herself, if only slightly taller. Considering how big ponies are, that's not "several tons" by any means.

I don't think you're *really* trying to compare the Bugbear's durability with a dragon's. If so, then the level at which we've begun to cripple and underestimate these creatures has really reached critical levels.
The Bugbear being put in Tartarus isn't a measure of power by any means. They put if there because they captured it. That's all there is to it until further explanation. It probably was responsible for several attacks, so they decided to lock him up. Pretty sure if Garble decided to consistently show up in towns, attacking ponies and setting fire to their houses, they'd eventually capture him and put him there as well.

"Handily" is precisely the exageration that I'm arguing against, because evidence shows exactly the opposite.
Like I said before, I don't doubt that she could beat Garble, but consistent evidence shows that she wouldn't just be able to instantly blast him out or magically freeze him, since that's never been the case with the many, many life/death encounters they've had with dangerous creatures before. Some of which weren't much bigger than him and several who were definetly less dangerous.

*PS:* I feel the comedic role they gave his character in this episode is part of the reason why people are having so many doubts about Twilight's reaction to him. It caused some to forget how dangerous his species could be if they were actually trying to hurt other creatures w/o the show's restrictions.

The characters in the show don't share our _"oh its a kid's show, nothing's ever going to happen to them"_ view. They see danger as real and react accordingly. That's why ponies are historically scared of dragons.

"@Fwelin":/1136582#comment_4951445
Of course they outdo ponies in terms of pure durability. Even Spike does, so its obvious teenagers do so even more. For ponies a couple of falls here and there are usually just cartoon physics when comedy requires it, while avoiding realism. But just like RD being sent to the hospital after one crash and Twilight being in a wheelchair covered in plaster casts during her unfortunate _pinkie sense_ incident, it shows when the plot doesn't _require them to ignore it_, and need the realism, such things are enough for them to be seriously hurt.

I don't think anyone would debate Spike's the one among the main cast who takes the most punishment and yet feels it the least. That's been pretty consistent since a long time ago. _Spike at your Service_ even had him crushed by a rock larger than he is, and then just popping out from underneath without even being remotely dazed by it. And this is _consistent_ behaviour for his character.

Secondly, I never said teenage dragons would be much stronger physically than adult ponies. They aren't that much bigger than them yet so it makes sense. There should be a difference, but its certainly not that much. The rock example isn't exactly applicable however, because there's a big difference between picking something up yourself, and trying to remove it from ontop of your chest while laying face up on the ground. Not to mention none of that matters when one good swipe would open a pony's belly like a seashell.

Also, you're greatly exagerating Tom's weight. It was approximately as big as Rarity herself, if only slightly taller. Considering how big ponies are, that's not "several tons" by any means.

I don't think you're *really* trying to compare the Bugbear's durability with a dragon's. If so, then the level at which we've begun to cripple and underestimate these creatures has really reached critical levels.
The Bugbear being put in Tartarus isn't a measure of power by any means. They put if there because they captured it. That's all there is to it until further explanation. It probably was responsible for several attacks, so they decided to lock him up. Pretty sure if Garble decided to consistently show up in towns, attacking ponies and setting fire to their houses, they'd eventually capture him and put him there as well.

"Handily" is precisely the exageration that I'm arguing against, because evidence shows exactly the opposite.
Like I said before, I don't doubt that she could beat Garble, but consistent evidence shows that she wouldn't just be able to instantly blast him out or magically freeze him, since that's never been the case with the many, many life/death encounters they've had with dangerous creatures before. Some of which weren't much bigger than him and several who were definetly less dangerous.

*PS:* I feel the comedic role they gave his character in this episode is part of the reason why people are having so many doubts about Twilight's reaction to him. It caused some to forget how dangerous his species could be if they were actually trying to hurt other creatures w/o the show's restrictions.

The characters in the show don't share our _"oh its a kid's show, nothing's ever going to happen to them"_ view. They see danger as real and react accordingly. That's why ponies are historically scared of dragons.

"@Fwelin":/1136582#comment_4951445
Of course they outdo ponies in terms of pure durability. Even Spike does, so its obvious teenagers do so even more. For ponies ita couple of falls here and there are usually just cartoon physics when comedy requires it, while avoiding realism. But just like RD being sent to the hospital after one crash and Twilight being in a wheelchair covered in plaster casts during her unfortunate _pinkie sense_ incident, it shows when the plot doesn't _require them to ignore it_, and need the realism, such things are enough for them to be seriously hurt.

I don't think anyone would debate Spike's the one among the main cast who takes the most punishment and yet feels it the least. That's been pretty consistent since a long time ago. _Spike at your Service_ even had him crushed by a rock larger than he is, and then just popping out from underneath without even being remotely dazed by it.

Secondly, I never said teenage dragons would be much stronger physically than adult ponies. They aren't that much bigger than them yet so it makes sense. There should be a difference, but its certainly not that much. The rock example isn't exactly applicable however, because there's a big difference between picking something up yourself, and trying to remove it from ontop of your chest while laying face up on the ground. Not to mention none of that matters when one good swipe would open a pony's belly like a seashell.

Also, you're greatly exagerating Tom's weight. It was approximately as big as Rarity herself, if only slightly taller. Considering how big ponies are, that's not "several tons" by any means.

I don't think you're *really* trying to compare the Bugbear's durability with a dragon's. If so, then the level at which we've begun to cripple and underestimate these creatures has really reached critical levels.
The Bugbear being put in Tartarus isn't a measure of power by any means. They put if there because they captured it. That's all there is to it until further explanation. It probably was responsible for several attacks, so they decided to lock him up. Pretty sure if Garble decided to consistently show up in towns, attacking ponies and setting fire to their houses, they'd eventually capture him and put him there as well.

"Handily" is precisely the exageration that I'm arguing against, because evidence shows exactly the opposite.
Like I said before, I don't doubt that she could beat Garble, but consistent evidence shows that she wouldn't just be able to instantly blast him out or magically freeze him, since that's never been the case with the many, many life/death encounters they've had with dangerous creatures before. Some of which weren't much bigger than him and several who were definetly less dangerous.

*PS:* I feel the comedic role they gave his character in this episode is part of the reason why people are having so many doubts about Twilight's reaction to him. It caused some to forget how dangerous his species could be if they were actually trying to hurt other creatures w/o the show's restrictions.

The characters in the show don't share our _"oh its a kid's show, nothing's ever going to happen to them"_ view. They see danger as real and react accordingly. That's why ponies are historically scared of dragons.

"@Fwelin":/1136582#comment_4951445
Of course they outdo ponies in terms of pure durability. Even Spike does, so its obvious teenagers do so even more. For ponies its moustually just cartoon physics when comedy requires it, while avoiding realism. But just like RD being sent to the hospital after one crash and Twilight being in a wheelchair covered in plaster casts during her unfortunate _pinkie sense_ incident, it shows when the plot doesn't _require them to ignore it_, and need the realism, such things are enough for them to be seriously hurt.

I don't think anyone would debate Spike's the one among the main cast who takes the morest punishment and yet feels it the least. That's been pretty consistent since a long time ago. _Spike at your Service_ even had him crushed by a rock larger than he is, and then just popping out from underneath without even being remotely dazed by it.

Secondly, I never said teenage dragons would be much stronger physically than adult ponies. They aren't that much bigger than them yet so it makes sense. There should be a difference, but its certainly not that much. The rock example isn't exactly applicable however, because there's a big difference between picking something up yourself, and trying to remove it from ontop of your chest while laying face up on the ground. Not to mention none of that matters when one good swipe would open a pony's belly like a seashell.

Also, you're greatly exagerating Tom's weight. It was approximately as big as Rarity herself, if only slightly taller. Considering how big ponies are, that's not "several tons" by any means.

I don't think you're *really* trying to compare the Bugbear's durability with a dragon's. If so, then the level at which we've begun to cripple and underestimate these creatures has really reached critical levels.
The Bugbear being put in Tartarus isn't a measure of power by any means. They put if there because they captured it. That's all there is to it until further explanation. It probably was responsible for several attacks, so they decided to lock him up. Pretty sure if Garble decided to consistently show up in towns, attacking ponies and setting fire to their houses, they'd eventually capture him and put him there as well.

"Handily" is precisely the exageration that I'm arguing against, because evidence shows exactly the opposite.
Like I said before, I don't doubt that she could beat Garble, but consistent evidence shows that she wouldn't just be able to instantly blast him out or magically freeze him, since that's never been the case with the many, many life/death encounters they've had with dangerous creatures before. Some of which weren't much bigger than him and several who were definetly less dangerous.

*PS:* I feel the comedic role they gave his character in this episode is part of the reason why people are having so many doubts about Twilight's reaction to him. It caused some to forget how dangerous his species could be if they were actually trying to hurt other creatures w/o the show's restrictions.

The characters in the show don't share our _"oh its a kid's show, nothing's ever going to happen to them"_ view. They see danger as real and react accordingly. That's why ponies are historically scared of dragons.

"@Fwelin":/1136582#comment_4951445
Of course they outdo ponies in terms of pure durability. Even Spike does, so its obvious teenagers do so even more. For ponies its mostly cartoon physics when comedy requires it, while avoiding realism. But just like RD being sent to the hospital after one crash and Twilight being in wheelchair covered in plaster casts during her unfortunate _pinkie sense_ incident, it shows when the plot doesn't _require them to ignore it_, and need the realism, such things are enough for them to be seriously hurt.

I don't think anyone would debate Spike's the one among the main cast who takes the more punishment and yet feels it the least. That's been pretty consistent since a long time ago. _Spike at your Service_ even had him crushed by a rock larger than he is, and then just popping out from underneath without even being remotely dazed by it.

Secondly, I never said teenage dragons would be much stronger physically than adult ponies. They aren't that much bigger than them yet so it makes sense. There should be a difference, but its certainly not that much. The rock example isn't exactly applicable however, because there's a big difference between picking something up yourself, and trying to remove it from ontop of your chest while laying face up on the ground. Not to mention none of that matters when one good swipe would open a pony's belly like a seashell.

Also, you're greatly exagerating Tom's weight. It was approximately as big as Rarity herself, if only slightly taller. Considering how big ponies are, that's not "several tons" by any means.

I don't think you're *really* trying to compare the Bugbear's durability with a dragon's. If so, then the level at which we've begun to cripple and underestimate these creatures has really reached critical levels.
The Bugbear being put in Tartarus isn't a measure of power by any means. They put if there because they captured it. That's all there is to it until further explanation. It probably was responsible for several attacks, so they decided to lock him up. Pretty sure if Garble decided to consistently show up in towns, attacking ponies and setting fire to their houses, they'd eventually capture him and put him there as well.

"Handily" is precisely the exageration that I'm arguing against, because evidence shows exactly the opposite.
Like I said before, I don't doubt that she could beat Garble, but consistent evidence shows that she wouldn't just be able to instantly blast him out or magically freeze him, since that's never been the case with the many, many life/death encounters they've had with dangerous creatures before. Some of which weren't much bigger than him and several who were definetly less dangerous.

*PS:* I feel the comedic role they gave his character in this episode is part of the reason why people are having so many doubts about Twilight's reaction to him. It caused some to forget how dangerous his species could be if they were actually trying to hurt other creatures w/o the show's restrictions.

The characters in the show don't share our _"oh its a kid's show, nothing's ever going to happen to them"_ view. They see danger as real and react accordingly. That's why ponies are historically scared of dragons.