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Predicons rising.  
Also #6DC9 i think you mean oppression not subjugated
 
And also it’s prased  
‘because i now know the true meaning of oppression. And thus vast my taste for inflicting it’
 
And last to Darth Prime: i see the logic in that statement. I see it as this. Megatron had the right intentions but the execution of making those intentions a reality just sucked. Badly
 
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makes more sense than ‘I now understand what it means to be subjugated’ they pulled in the movie.
 
Seriously, Megs was a gladiator, forced to fight for his life every day. If that’s not subjugated I don’t know what is.
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@Prof.NightJack  
First of all let me preface this by saying that I hope you realize that post was done (mostly) jokingly (I’d hope the Futurerama reference at the would make that obvious)
 
Anyway now that I’ve thought about that but about “cosmic dreadnought” might have been Autobot propaganda
 
Let’s breakdown the timeline
 
750 million years ago: A faction of Protectobots called Autobots comes to prominence, advocating the expansion of autonomous Cybertronian territory. The Age of Expansion began.
 
300 million years ago: The Age of Expansion ends after several border skirmishes with the Quintessons. The Destrons feel that they shouldered a disproportionate share of the burden of defending the Autobots Commonwealth while not reaping the equal benefits.
 
70 million years ago: A faction within the Destrons, the Decepticons, advocates that the Allspark be used turn Cybertron itself into a massive robot capable of defending itself.
 
14 million years ago: Megatron defeats the Decepticon leader Megazarak and sends him into exile. He proceeds to rally many warriors to his cause with his inflammatory rhetoric. (Could he perhaps have told them to “rise up”)
 
12 million years ago: Ultra Prime is sworn in as Magnus following increased tension between Megatron’s growing supporters and the Autobots. His first act is to pass the Decepticon Registration Act.
 
10 to 2 million years ago: The Great War between the bots and cons is fought. It ends with the Allspark lost and the con accepting exile in exchange for amnesty.
 
I see no mention of a “cosmic dreadnought” or galactic conquest (sure there’s a post-it on the timeline that says “doublecheck that all the info incarcerated seekers provided is accurate” but I don’t see how that’s relevant)
 
Meanwhile the Allspark Almanac’s entry on Cybertron by Ultra Magnus has him say “Millions of years ago, Megatron started the Great War with the expressed goal of using the Allspark to turn Cybertron into an interstellar juggernaut. It was the sacred duty of us Autobot to thwart his mad ambition, lest the innocent races of the cosmos suffer.”
 
Is that true UM? Or is that just what he tells himself to comfort himself for his on war crimes? Like commissioning the creation of giant WMD with the mentality of children so they don’t have to think about the damage they do
 
Who’s the war criminal again? Because I’m pretty sure child soldiers are a war crime
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@Darth Prime  
When the AllSpark itself, the thing the Cons wanted to use for that plan, was itself doing things to keep them from getting it then its proof that they are not the one in the right.
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But the Decepticons are oppressed they were driven from their home world by those meanie Autobutts  
You mean the ones that ATTACKED in the old war and that where forced to fight back for there lives?  
And they left on there own when Megaton had gone missing and they where losing the war they started?
 
>Because the cons wanted to use the Allspark on Cybertron itself to turn it into a giant robot capable of of defending itself  
And conquer the universe.
 
>Cybertronian right to dominate the galaxy and purge it of pitiful organics to backwards to recognize their own inferiority  
You mean what Primus, their god, didn’t want them using it for,
 
>Who’s the real monster here Professor  
“Not I” says Megatron “not I”
 
Says the bot that started the war as he didn’t like how he wasn’t in charge.
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@Prof.NightJack  
But the Decepticons are oppressed they were driven from their home world by those meanie Autobutts
 
And for what? Because the cons wanted to use the Allspark on Cybertron itself to turn it into a giant robot capable of of defending itself
 
And to turn it into a cosmic dreadnought that could be used to achieve the Cybertronian right to dominate the galaxy and purge it of pitiful organics to backwards to recognize their own inferiority
 
Who’s the real monster here Professor  
“Not I” says Megatron “not I”
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@Darth Prime  
No he didn’t, it was on the Shockwave, eons older then when Shockwave said it, and he was using it with another meaning then what the Autobots used it for.  
It’s always an old saying for the Cybertronians that the Autobots took up, in every continuity it’s older then both factions.
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@Prof.NightJack  
I know it’s a counter part for “roll out” but “rise up” sounds like a rallying for the oppressed masses which the animated cons are of course
 
Also you bring up “til all as one” as an Autobot thing but it’s funny to remember that it was Shockwave who coined it in Dreamwave continuity
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@Darth Prime  
No, it’s the Cons version of “roll out” ,meaning “move out”  
A rallying cry is to bring them together for a battle, you don’t use the same line to send them off as it sends mixed messages.  
You don;t rally support by telling people “go out and do your part”, they well just be “wait, do what?”
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@Prof.NightJack  
Actually it can be viewed as both
 
You can see “Rise up” as in “take to the air” which works because flight is usual the con’s advantage
 
It can also be seen as “rise up and conquer rise up and take what is ours” which seem fairly rally cry-ish to me
 
But if you want an actual rally cry that’s called as such “you are being deceived” was what the cons used pre-war in IDW