@And Brother I Hurt People  
I never said lies weren’t being perpetuated. I was saying that they don’t have to be.

@Itsthinking
 
>you don’t have to perpetuate a lie to make money
 
Obviously, you’ve never heard of the fashion industry. Or, really, almost any industry who primarily aims toward women. Some for men, too, of course.

The Monster High characters are the first two cards in the second row (Frankie, Cleo) and the entire third/fourth rows (listed in order below):  
Rochelle, Draculaura, Venus McFlytrap, Meowlody/Purrsephone, Clawdeen, Nefera  
Operetta, Toralei, Abbey, Spectra, Robecca, Clawd Wolf
 
Now why did I emphasise Spectra? She is my favourite MH character.

@And Brother I Hurt People  
The point of a business is to make money. You don’t have to perpetuate a lie to make money, you just have to make something that could make more money than keeping it in place.

@Itsthinking
 
But that’s a point of a business.

@And Brother I Hurt People  
That’s how they get the money.
 
And now you’ve got another generation that will perpetuate the lie.

@Itsthinking
 
And I agree, but do kids know that? Once they find out the truth, they’re about ten years too late to return their dolls.

@And Brother I Hurt People  
High school was a lot of hard work for me. Can’t help but laugh at these depictions of high school clearly written by people who wanted that to be what it was like.
 
But they’re usually the minority. Depictions of high school change depending on who you’re making the media for.

@Itsthinking
 
Yeah, but the point is lost if it’s something the kid doesn’t want. And if she wants the Coffin Bean playhouse set complete with exclusive doll, the very least she can do is learn a lesson from it.
 
I’d also vouch for the imagination, because let’s face it, even if your view of high school was terribly skewed as a kid, you still thought about it. It was supposed to be better than where you were, after all.

@And Brother I Hurt People  
Could be done with literally anything that costs money, but I digress.

@Itsthinking
 
No kid wants to be force feed learning while playing, I can tell you from experience. That’s why you have to find a clever way to hide it.
 
Not that I’m saying MH is educational in itself, mind you, but I’m sure some parent could find a way to teach their kid something with it. I mean, when I was young, I learned the value of money via the buying of toys; the doll in itself can be the lesson.

It just makes me sad. So sad that these characters that were in great stories for a reason and helped me enjoy literature are now…this.
 
It might just be that kids don’t care about learning while they play. That’s why American Girl dolls changed.
 
Isn’t helping the audience at all.

Do you really think a little girl is going to be looking at her Robecca Steam and think “Gee, I wonder where the concept of robots came from?” Or another, looking at her Frankie-stein, think “The real Frankenstein must have more stitches on its face, this is bullshit, I hate this franchise”?
 
Let’s put it in terms of Barbie. Is a little girl going to look at astronaut Barbie and think “Only 57 females have been in space, what’s with this misrepresentation?” Of course they won’t. I don’t know how else to tell you this, but I’ll say it bluntly: your argument is relying on a train of thought that simply doesn’t exist in the type of girls MH is aimed at. Hell, it probably doesn’t exist in the type of little girls/boys outside of MH’s market. Your train of thought is coming from an adult (?) male, not from a five year old girl who has no idea what Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is as she makes her Holt Hyde hug Frankie Stein. You’re putting yourself in the shoes of someone you don’t understand.
 
As I said before, I get that it sucks to see something you’ve grown up with twisted in such a severe way, but does it really affect you enough to be physically ill in the presence of a hunk of plastic? No.
 
Let toys be toys.

@MuffinSucker  
Cartoon is absolute shit and certainly doesn’t help with the franchise’s outlook. I mean when you have a spinoff with King Lear OCs that’s pretty bad.
 
Honestly, both are cut from the same terrible cloth.

@Itsthinking  
Oh, you have seen the cartoon or whatever? I haven’t seen it.
 
Wait, an actual vampire? You’re afraid THIS will make people think differently about vampires? I’m far more concerned about Twilight to worry about this crap.

@MuffinSucker  
Rather would have their first experience at least be slightly accurate to the original. I don’t want people to look atcan actual vampire and wonder why it doesn’t dress like that.
 
You know what pisses me off? Other than the entire concept, I mean?
 
The characters joke about how “wrong” the original stories are.

@Itsthinking  
And the target audience won’t know. But what it will do is introduce them to names like ‘Dracula’, ‘Gorgon’, ‘Frankenstein’ and concepts like zombies, mummies and gargoyles.
 
Later in their teens they might look up a movie with similar titles or featuring similar creatures. They may or may not appreciate them, but they’ll know about them.
 
You know what pisses me off? When they refer to Frankenstein’s monster as ‘Frankenstein’, that’s the only gripe I’m having right now, reading the Wikipedia page.

@MuffinSucker  
Giving these monsters children is honestly terrifying.
 
This is a franchise that proves to companies that you don’t have to think hard to sell to children. Just take stock characters and dress them in what kids think high schoolers can dress like. Forget what reasons monsters were made for and just make them look pretty! The target audience won’t know.

Hang on, I just read a little more, apparently there’s a minor character named Belle who is the offspring of a tentacle alien… Mattel knows how to pander to nerds as well, it seems.

@Itsthinking  
From Wikipedia: “The characters are depicted as being either related to or as offspring of famous monsters…”  
These aren’t the monsters you are looking for.
 
I don’t get what makes you throw such a hissy-fit. I’m not really defending the franchise, but you are way too passionate in your rage.

@And Brother I Hurt People  
A major corporation destroyed some of the greatest stories ever told and thinks an audience won’t find them interesting unless they dress in “weird” fashion and I’m the problem?
 
Whoever came up with MH is the one with the problem.

@Jarntazecht
 
The webshow isn’t that great, so I’d say no.
 
 
@Itsthinking
 
If the concept of a doll makes you physically ill, I have a feeling you’re the problem here, and not the dolls.
 
 
@MuffinSucker
 
Exactly; that’s what MH is.

@Itsthinking  
@And Brother I Hurt People
 
Man, I’ve been watching Cinemassacre’s Sequel-a-Thon for Monster Madness and nothing ruined the classic monsters more than the crappy sequels they put out in the 40’s and 60’s.  
I am not interested in watching Monster High, but I imagine it’s the same way Disney ruined classic tales like Mulan, or Hercules. They target kids, so modify the material to match that target audience.

I was thinking of watching MH - just a way to kill a day right? Is it really that bad?

@And Brother I Hurt People  
It sucks a lot because yes, I did.
 
Kids remember this shit and it causes future content creators to pander to them.
 
Deuce Gorgon makes me physically ill. Not even kidding.
 
Decent quality is being wasted on bad concepts.