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I would have made my point sooner if I’d seen your comment sooner.
Duh.
@Beau Skunky
Agreed. The movie had it’s strong parts and it’s weak parts. The EQG world was sorely underdeveloped but hopefully Rqinbow Rocks will fix that.
Some of us disagree… It wasn’t an “Oscar winner,” or “Best episode ever” thing, but it wasn’t a “blasphemous abomination/worst movie ever” either. I still enjoyed it, in fact, I enjoyed the 2 “Rainbow Rocks” promotional animated shorts they released to.
(Trixie VS Dashie was amusing.)
Except now we know it was bad.
Those first things aren’t AU since they never crossed. Well, by the technical definition yes, but story writers call that things like ‘self-contained’ or ‘reimagining.’
AU as far as media goes is stuff like Infinite Crisis, Super Robot Wars, and that TMNT example there. AU usually fails most when two things aren’t the same genre, because one of them is either going to need to nerf itself, or bring the other up in ‘power level’ in order to compete. Two things that can counteract it are humour or the power of CUUUUUUTENESS. Example: Hello Cthulhu. If it tried to be serious, it would fail, because Cthulhu and his retinue got massively depowered to fit in.
Sometimes it can be a subtle mis-match, such as the various Star Trek vs Star Wars fics. SW missiles/torpedos are nowhere near as strong, but Star Trek ships need to noticeably ‘warm up’ in order to hyperspace. Turbolasers beat phasers, but phasers CAN’T MISS. So many humanoid races in ST means they have little need for custom seating design or food and ‘BM facilities’ and similar logistics. Depending on which universe the author fanboys for, determines which are the bigger disadvantages. The genre mismatch here is that SW is ‘space opera’ and everything from tactics to character rationale doesn’t mesh with Bureaucracy Is Power. Babylon 5 would be the more reasonable matchup.
For a consistently running same-company result, NIS and Disgaea. The extra characters from the other games are basically flavour, because their innate special skills are either wildly overpowered or underpowered for the Disgaea universe. (Especially if those universes don’t use simple squares for combat movement. This can greatly affect the transitionary character’s range and AoE.)
Is it bad that I like alternate universes/continuities? If we didn’t have them, and everything was awlays in the same universe/canon, we wouldn’t have stuff like the Christopher Nolan “Batman” movie trilogy, and instead they would have to be like the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher movies, and they would have to take place in the same storylines.
Also, if we didn’t have characters visiting other alternate universes, we wouldn’t of had stuff like the “Turtles Forever” anniversary movie, which I thought was pretty good. (Though, they overplayed the goofiness of the old TMNT show a bit.) And I liked the “Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths” animated movie, which shows how well alternate universe characters can be handled.
I think having things slightly different in this new “Equestria Girls” might actually be a good thing, and it’d be nice to see alternate versions of the characters. Celestia doesn’t have to be an all-powerful princess, and move the sun in this alternate universe, if you want my opinion. Some things can be similar in an alternate world, (otherwise it wouldn’t be familiar enough) but not everything has to be.
(Though, admittedly I don’t like the whole typical high school setting, which seems kinda like rip-off of other toy-etic girl shows.)
oh ok now i get thx a lot
and you know what? i would like to have equestra girls having separated from fim instead of having twi moving to that alternate parallel universe world
P.S. and also dosen’t this remind me of kamen rider decade the destroyer of the worlds?
P.S.S. and also dosen’t also remind of the rival of decade kamen rider diend?
I’m not entirely sure I understand the question… I’m pretty sure practically everyone considers alicorn Twilight, and by extension whatever happens in S04, to be ‘canon’.
Whether this EG movie thing will be considered ‘canon’ or not is disputable, like those German and French comics. If they were a wholly separate thing completely unconnected to FiM, it could be a nice separate ‘canon’ reality like Transformers or something. But now that it has pony Twilight moving between worlds, it just muddles things up.
ok and last thing and i stop:so we all need to belive that this alternate fictional universe to that mix should be real and important just like the alicorn drama from the season 4 finale? (when twilight sparkle becomes an alicorn princess when celestia finds out that twi has found the power of friendship)
Well, I hope this movie comes to theaters before training starts. Then, It would be really bad :/
Viewer suspension of belief requires that we accept the fictional universe as “real”. Add another fictional universe to that mix where the rules are different, but we’re still required to believe that both are real, and important.
Queen Chrysalis taking over Canterlot would be a disaster if the FiM universe were the only real one, but barely register if we go into this whole “alternate universe” fiasco that is suddenly canon.
And what are you talking about the part that you said”How are we the viewers meant to accept both settings as real when they contradict eachother?” cuz i didin’t clearly understanded that part you said
Well we don’t know if they are or aren’t.
If they are, will they be world leaders like in FiM? Or diminished to teachers/principles? If they are still “princesses”, why is Twilight in a highschool? If their role is different, then why does the sun work normally in one world and controlled by an alicorn in another? How is Twilight supposed to just ignore this sort of thing? How are we the viewers meant to accept both settings as real when they contradict eachother? Willful suspension of belief can only go so far when the creators themselves keep telling us “well actually, this isn’t real”.
And one last thing:how this drama should be fixed to be this special movie what the bronies wanted to?
And the example part does it means also that celestia and luna should be in this alternate universe?
Ok now i get it thx a lot for helping me out
I personally detest most crossovers and alternate universes. Characers always being in world X is fine; characters from world Y moving to world X is not. It dilutes the world, trivializes things and opens a huge can of worms.
As a quick example, this alternate universe, how does the sun work? Is Celestia still rising it every day? If she doesn’t, it breaks the reality of the MLP universe, and if she does she can’t possibly be a character in a high school setting.
And that’s of course not even going into how this will mostly likely turn out to be a teen drama thing focused on who the most popular girl in class is or which cheerleader is using hair extensions or ohmahgod Bradley is so cute in his team outfit, umph.
This background pony gets it. I never thought I’d say this, but listen to this background pony.
Probably just a generic pony in the “pony art style” seen in the S1 opener. If Trixie is in this thing, it’d be as an annoying passing antagonist Twilight has to get through before getting through the “final boss”.
Most doll oriented product suffer from this.