Honestly, most of the stupid things the princesses have done throughout the show has honestly just been stupid writing to have the main characters take the spotlight, so if forces the princesses to be incompetent and idiotic since they could have handled most of these incidents fairly easily. That last line from Rainbow Dash further proves that.

@GrimChariot
Also, your point about their feats being not impressive doesn’t really hold because they were impressive at the time since most of the temporary solutions they either didn’t know about or could do nothing about, yet we’re the only ones who could do anything at all. Especially with Sombra and Discord.

@GrimChariot
I feel like a ton of what you said is true but heavily influenced by assumed ‘realistic’ (negative) opinions on why someone would do similar actions as well as heavy bias against both Celestia and Luna.

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@Shimmering Spectacle
Doesn’t make it ok to purposely not help when a bad guy attacks.
Really not good for Luna’s case honestly.

they did help, they just could not interfere with twilight’s path in taking their place in the throne, which is why they are only guiding her towards that path, and with her friends too.

Yeah, they did help.

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sudahlah badut (rainbow dash)

in all honesty, you have several things wrong rarity had a career before she was accommodated she was also accommodated as a thank you for all the things she;’s done (like saving the lands when she could not) five time over

@Smitty1991  
It felt like the Royal Sisters are destined to be “inferior” to Twilight(who is the “chosen one”).
 
This is pretty much my bitterness talking..
 
I love Twilight but I do harbor a bitterness of some sort towards her due to how the writers often shaft Luna and Celestia for the sake of her there.

@Background Pony #A5C4  
Exactly. This is why I hated the episode.
 
@nightshroud96  
The less said about that shitstorm of a series finale (or, hell, just season 9 in general), the better. What makes this worse is the fact that the writers seemed to realize, “Oh, shit, we haven’t done anything with these two characters at all for the past eight seasons. Let’s shoehorn them into a bunch of random episodes to make up for that.” Pissed me off to no end.

Honestly the bit with Rainbow dash saying the sisters deliberately not helping because they are teaching Twilight pissed me off, like a lot. There are better ways of teaching Twilight rather than essentially purposely choosing to not help protecting Equestria for the sake of letting Twilight handle it.  
Its also at the expense of Luna since while Celestia managed to protect Equestria for a 1000 years(no way in hell no threats popped up during those 1000 years). Luna doesn’t have that, she lost a 1000 years. She never got to truly succeed in protecting Equestria not even once since her return from the moon. Either she isn’t involved/gets sidelined or gets taken out when some villain attacks or some crisis that is caused by a villain. It would make Luna look bad.
 
The problem is the sisters are not truly involved in some major crisis(especially where major villains attack)/get sidelined or they get taken out/incapacitated/defeated if they do get involved when some villain strikes.  
Pretty much the sisters can’t directly save the day anymore since the Mane 6 came into the picture.  
No, simply holding something back/distracting a bad guy or send some message doesn’t fix that. Especially if they ended up getting captured or sidelined.  
What happened in the season 9 premiere did not make up for the issue but it was sort of a step in the right direction(in which the writers freaking took some steps backwards in the finale)
 
The instances were the sisters got incapacitated does not give them a pass. Those moments there makes them look bad, big time.
 
Its understandable they wouldn’t be involved in minor events or with Starlight(since she wasn’t a world-ending threat the first time around) but there’s no excuse for the Pony of Shadows case(which really is a major threat due to what he was about to do to Equestria). The sisters were literally in the finale, they could have sent the sisters a message or a quick long-range teleportation(pretty sure that is possible) and there was plenty of time since the gang wasted some hours trying to search for the POS. The sisters(especially Luna due to Starswirl’s whole “once a villain always a villain” attitude) were wasted badly in that finale there.
 
With how the writers handled the sisters(especially with how they weren’t included in the final rainbow laser in the finale despite they wielded the elements before and their cutie marks were on the tree of harmony), it just looks like they are screwed big time since they are no longer connected to the Elements. Just screwed big time.

@Smitty1991  
But that’s just the point: Cadence is her niece, Celestia has seen her at her best and her worst for most of her life since she had Ascended, on top of this Cadence and Twilight both hqve history together which means that there has to be some level of criticism to take into account with Cadences’ behaviour overall. Celestia ought to have known something was entirely wrong with the situation that would result in an immediate escalation of tension between the pair of them. Such escalation would open the doorway for postponing the wedding entirely, which would have been seen as a move to tread the waters with Cadence; maybe even give Luna a reason to be involved by investigating Cadence’s dreams at night: only to see the real Cadence in emotional distress and find out that the Cadence they were with was an imposter.  
Or, have Celestia give offhand remarks about details that only she and Cadence would be innately aware of that would break Chrysalis’ deception if Celestia told Cadence of an event that never even happened.  
Or, have Twilight be responsible and ask for the wedding to be postponed until the threat has been properly dealt with, and if Cadence keeps trying to push the subject of carrying through with the wedding and to ignore the threat altogether: it would unravel the façade when Cadence starts issuing demands and orders that she would have no business doing in the presence of Celestia and Luna.
 
In other words: the ponies would outmaneuver the deciever in deception.

@GrimChariot  
These are all reasons why I hated “A Canterlot Wedding” and then some and Celestia as a character.

@Smitty1991  
To be frank with Celestia’s plans for Twilight and the abysmally shortsighted set up of that entire fiasco I’d say he’s still got a point.
 
Having a wedding during a threatened attack?-Check
 
The only one able to directly defend the city is the groom, and the highest ranking officer making him the biggest, fattest, and arguably least protected target in the episodes?-Check
 
Only having one person in charge of defending the city and being the only one who can charge the shield despite the spells upkeep being shown to be a constant, debilitating strain? -Check
 
Soldiers ignore a gathering swarm of unknown creatures flying around and then bombarding said shield for at least 10 minutes with no response? -Check.
 
Celestia-supposedly strong enough to be a threat without the elements unable to defeat the equivalent of a doped up Twilight?-Check
 
People like to claim Celestia isn’t capable of not burning a city down but that then begs the question of where the worlds respect for her ends and their fear of her has been amplified by some frankly unforgivable and atrocious acts, considering controlling the sun basically gives you carte blanche to demand anything and no one can oppose you.
 
Or, Celestia has the power of a demigod or Discord level entity and the actual magical ability/training of the average Unicorn. Meaning she can go Pew-pew and thats really about it. Which is insultingly laughable with the acclaim she holds since that would point to the Elements themselves being the actual responsible party for Equestria’s survival and Celestia and Luna glorified chauffeurs for the magic rocks.

@Ohvist  

 
Uh, no. Celestia wasn’t involved with the wedding at all. Therefore, she had no interactions with Cadence at all. Of course she would be pissed at Twilight for implying that Cadance is evil; Cadance was her niece, after all. Twilight was essentially insulting Celestia’s family.

She was unable to tell the difference between Cadence and Chrysalis resulting in the first Invasion of Canterlot. She was captured by the Plunder Vines, sent to Tartarus after draining hers, Lunas’ and Cadences’ magic into Twilight. The Second Changeling Invasion where she, Luna, The Mane Seven, Cadence, Shining Armor, and Flurry were captured and replaced by Chrysalis. The Third Invasion of Canterlot by Tempest Shadow and the Siege of Equestria by The Storm King. Then there is the Fourth Invasion of Canterlot where Cozy Huginn-Muninn Glow used Grogars’ Bell to steal Celestias and Lunas Magic.
 
There has to be a reason why after Lunas’ return that causes whenever Celestia tries to do anything heroic on her own directly, she always ends up losing at the crucial moment when victory is within her grasp…

I knew this was going to be a debate.

@Jarkes  
What do you expect from freelance writers who’ve nwver watched the show in their lives? Honestly, this kind of stupidity is expected from the writers at this point.
 
@Cedric Moon  
Finally, someone who gets it!
 
@GrimChariot  
I salute you. If I could upvote this comment a million times, I would.

This is impressive, thorough, and very much appreciated.  
The only thing I don’t like is the font choice.
 
Thank you for pointing out the many, many times the celestial sisters helped their little ponies.

@redweasel  
She is.

sunset shimmer’s not canon lol

@banebuster thanks ! Very thanks !
 
In advance, sorry for the mistakes, I’m not good in English.
 
This forgets for many that without Celestia and Luna in the past to stabilize the kingdom…. Equestria would no longer exist at all since a long time… but well, they are useless… They’re just decorative…  
In short, if they hadn’t done anything in the past, there would be no future… but hey, it’s easier to spit on them…
 
And then, it’s for sure that putting a nerd library rat who is stressful for nothing, a fashion diva, a farmer, an aerial stuntman, an animal protector and a pastry comedian to lead a nation, it’s an incredible flawless logic that we are shown with this sublime (or not) season 9…
 
All I see is a rotten, sloppy and hasty ending with all the possible and imaginable easy choices hidden by an overdose of fan service so that the easy audience that composes for many the viewers of this series closes its eyes in ostrich mode by shouting at the genius on the famous fan service episodes, being blinded, while Hasbro took the opportunity to finish once and for all with the G4 by destroying all the symbolic and continuity of the series brought by the 7 previous seasons…. the season 8 having started the massacre, the season 9 having finished it!  
Thanks to them….
 
The show will end in a simple and unimaginative way with a choice seen and reviewed, with Twilight that will lead with the full powers Equestria in North Korea mode ! We had an innovative and uncommon 4 princesses system and a higher level of political stability but hey… being innovative it’s nil, ease it’s better…  
We see it irl, when someone has all the full powers without countermeasures behind, it always goes wrong… (yum yum… easy dictatorship in 10 lessons)  
(Some will retort to me then, “but Celestia has been running Equestria alone for 1000 years!” Yes, but, she was already more than a century old when she found herself alone and unlike Twilight, she is a very calm leader. She doesn’t stress for nothing.)
 
Let’s talk about Twilight, the so-called princess who supposedly represents friendship but who, on many occasions, forgets what she’s supposed to represent by not listening or not trusting her friends… and that since season 1!  
Her castle? If we remove the card, he’s useless…  
Her useless school? She can thank Starlight for taking care of it well in her place because, personally, I find that Mrs the director is not very useful there either… Another great demonstration of cheap logic…. And there are many other examples of her incompetence…  
And again, I’m nice, I don’t insist on the fact she always stresses all the time for nothing and for all the disasters she caused by herself…  
She doesn’t even deserve to run a French fry shack so much she’s so unreliable as a princess… And she’s the one who’s going to run Equestria alone… poor ponies, I feel sorry for them!
 
Last point… Being a hero doesn’t automatically make you a good leader, it’s just a lousy choice of ease taken by lazy writers…

You win this round! ;)