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No more "upvotes galore", "downvotes galore" or "wall of faves"

Thanotos Omega
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@The Frowning Pony  
I was referring to the badges, they have a really high standard last i saw, so most users will never get an uploaders badge simply because of A: one art form is completely disqualified and B there isn’t enough new art that does meet the criteria for people to have a realistic chance at getting the 200 uploads let alone 200 that get over 200 upvotes, the wall of faves and Upvotes galore are like a little consolation prize, just throw them into a different category that carries a 1 hour ban for needless reports, and let people tag war over it,
 
Or even simpler give them official criteria Upvotes Galore: 200+ upvotes within a day(this gives it a tiny bit of difference from the search feature to help justify it,) Wall of Faves: 200+ Faves, there they now have simple criteria still have some minor sense of meaning and someone get’s to smile when they see it on an upload,
liamwhite1
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - 10+ uploads with over 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)
A Perfectly Normal Pony - <%byte[]> I keep logs up my ass

I was referring to the badges, they have a really high standard last i saw, so most users will never get an uploaders badge simply because of A: one art form is completely disqualified …</runon>
 
Uploading enough images and taking enough risks on them to get 200 images with scores over 200 is no small undertaking and is a great positive contribution to the site.
 
[…] give them official criteria Upvotes Galore: 200+ upvotes within a day(this gives it a tiny bit of difference from the search feature to help justify it,)
 
If you assume that upvotes are dynamic: we don’t track that. We’re not interested in tracking that. It’s expensive in terms of database storage. Objective application of such a tag could be questionable. How would you retroactively apply it? etc
 
If you assume that upvotes are static (they are not removed after being applied) then there is also search syntax for this; see created_at.
Thanotos Omega
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@liamwhite1  
I just can’t help but feel you are missing the big point that if it makes someone a little happy for a few minutes it’s worth a little effort, and that no matter how you phrase it this comes off as a big “no fun allowed” which is not a very uplifting message from a site that was made so fans had a place to hangout and have fun,
The Frowning Pony

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@Thanotos Omega  
But… the score is there, and it’s correct and on all images always; what’s the difference between that, and that and an extraneous tag that people have to apply and maintain and may not be accurate?
toxicitzi
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@Thanotos Omega  
the site is in fact much better without either of these things to strain you into being an active worker here, that’s not what people should be doing on a site like this or trying to strive for in the first place and I may be just myself of this opinion, but things encouraging laboring in the site are detrimental to a user’s personal experience with the site and we’d all be much better without badges.
 
but the thing here is that, it won’t stay for such a reason as you’re giving. What you’re asking here is to keep a tag that is essentially dead weight on the system, but if tags could be useful meta-wise, do you have any idea how many tags would stay for the lulz? Lots of them.. you wouldn’t believe how many variations of “OP IS something something something” there would be.
 
I would normally agree here, because a little sense of achievement in the background is actually good, one without stretches and goals, or marks, just simple uploads that can reach a little status like that with no real consequences for the act, but this just is too little a reason and too few people even care about it to deem it worthwhile, not to mention that it goes against site functionality which is always a Bad thing for a very good reason! if site functionality never mattered to anyone here, you wouldn’t have the current flow and speed at your disposal that you do now, you can’t just dismiss that because this one thing is going to be the only exception, that’s just how it starts, one exception will bring many others along the road and for just that reason, one exception to fuck up the tags for browsing is already too many.
 
you should be happy with the status your images have, it’s really the same thing as seeing that tag there. The tag part is the unnecessary thing to have here.
Thanotos Omega
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
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Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

@The Frowning Pony  
@toxicitzi  
OK as my last valid argument before this becomes a completely circular chat, what about making them into badges Upvotes Galore:1 upload with at least 100 upvotes Wall of Faves:1 Upload with at least 100 faves, like the bronze metal to the more impressive ones? you could even underscore this by giving them gag descriptions like “Don’t get to cocky, this is totally a gamerscore 5 achievement, 10 tops” or “Congratulations you did a thing, not an amazing thing, but it is still a thing,” that way it doesn’t feel like it’s stepping on those who spent years earning their upload badges toes,
 
This i feel offers a fair method to A: continue the little ego boost they give and B: pay a little homage to the sites history.
 
and Upvotes Galore can be displaced from the under avatar listing when you earn it’s bigger brother badge,
toxicitzi
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@Thanotos Omega  
it’s a whole different topic you’re looking for and, like I said, I disagree with badges from a fundamental level.
 
I’m also pretty sure that other people have suggested this before.
Thanotos Omega
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Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

@toxicitzi  
It’s relevant as it pertains to the future of the tags, and while i do question the high levels set for them i am not one of those “Nobody should win so no body loses” people, i just feel we should acknowledge that your participation is worth while and noticed,
patec
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)
Cool Crow - "Caw!" An awesome tagger
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About this whole uploader achievement discussion:
 
When you come across a picture tagged with upvotes galore, what do you actually think?  
“Good job uploader! well done.”?  
Cause I don’t. If anything I think “Good job artist, well done”.  
I don’t see it as a achievement for the uploader at all.  
All you have to do is watch a hand full of popular artist and be quick when they post their work on DA, tumblr, etc.  
Sorry, that isn’t a huge achievement.
 
And the most important argument for getting rid of the tags is still this one.  
Right now there are 1566 pics with over 250 upvotes but without the tag.  
upvotes.gte:250 covers all of them!
Thanotos Omega
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

@patec  
like was said before then, don’t let anyone but the artist upload then, see how long the site stays active, uploaders are the only reason the site exists, neglecting their contribution is a strait up dick move,
The Frowning Pony

Administrator
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@Thanotos Omega  
So… they should appreciate the score, and if they’re dedicated uploaders, a token badge.
 
The score and score search term represents the same thing and is much more flexible without the hassle of it having to be maintained by anyone. We may as well have a tag for every single uploader.
The Frowning Pony

Administrator
13 blinks per minute
@Thanotos Omega  
But… why?
 
The score is there, the site has an inbuilt page to show images with a high score that would display the same results as “upvotes galore” if that tag were maintained properly all the time, and it has search functions to show the same results and even fine tune them to the desired ranges.
 
I don’t get what the downside here is; the score is visible to everyone already.
patec
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)
Cool Crow - "Caw!" An awesome tagger
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Magnificent Metadata Maniac - #1 Assistant
Fine Arts - Two hundred uploads with a score of over a hundred (Safe/Suggestive)
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@SuperSupermario24  
Yeah, that only makes it even worse.
 
@Thanotos Omega  
But uploaders DO get something for contributing to the site. There are two badges dedicated to active uploaders (with uploads of a certain quality). And two more for artists who reach high scores with their own artwork.
 
And that’s the thing. If anything is supposed to be a achievement for contributing to the site, it’s the badges. Not a tag that may or may not be added to the post as soon as it hits a seemingly random number of upvotes around 200, even though the “official” threshold is 250. But apparently not even 500 is enough in some cases.
 
And we’re only talking about UPVOTES galore here.  
What about downvotes galore? In your logic, what is that? A public symbol of shaming for uploaders and/or artists who upload stuff with bad quality, or even just stuff that enough people dislike?  
Cause then it probably violates Rule #0.
Thanotos Omega
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

@patec  
I haven’t been arguing to keep the actual tags, for a few posts now, and the fine arts/perfect pony plot provider, are less “Congrats you defeated a boss” and more “You have won at the slot machine 500 times” as achievements go,
 
From my earliest post i said i wouldn’t defend that tag because it is a means of shaming people.
atalarikt
Artist -

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So, will these tags be no more?
 
You know, I actually find these tags actually pretty useful. I can know which images I should upvote and/or fave and which I should laugh at whenever I’m bored.
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