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Just a little thought I had that came up in an RP I do. Thoughts?
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Fair enough.
@Chapelseed
It was meh
Ignore the line before the parenthesized statement; I wrote half of it and then forgot about it when I edited a different section.
In a multi-tiered franchise like this, there’s often multiple continuities, or canons.
For example, we don’t need any statements from anyone to know that the events of the show, like Friendship is Magic, Magical Mystery Cure, and Twilight’s Kingdom are canon to the comics, since the effects of them on the comics are clear, and there are clear references. Thus, the comics canon contains the events of the show, and the events of the comics.
However, there isn’t any such in-story evidence about the show canon containing the events of the comics, which means that there’s the possibility that they aren’t.
Thus, at the very least, we know that:
Show canon = Show + EGQ movies (via writer statement)
Comics canon = Show canon + Comics
The comics are obviously canon to themselves,
(I’m ignoring the books and cards for the moment to make it simpler).
It is possible that the show canon also contains the comics, which would make their canons one in the same, but until we get a clear statement by someone in authority over that saying “the events of the comics happened in the show, or “the comics are canon to the show”, like McCarthy did for EGQ, or the show writers change their policy and start referencing comics events, then we can’t know for sure.
So basically, Davis was merely stating that the show, the comics, the books, etc, all take place in the “overall franchise” canon, which is implied to be literally everything in G4. The people who believe that the comics aren’t (or might not be) canon don’t think that they’re not a part of the franchise, just that they’re not (or might not be) a part of the show canon in particular.
I have no opinion on whether the comics actually should be canon to the show (I’ve read a few, and thought they were decent enough), but at this point, I don’t think it’s too likely.
>It’s a statement of the comics being part of the story of the greater G4 MLP universe
But that’s literally the definition of canon, is it not?
That was me, forgot to turn off anon.
Anyway, have a good night.
That’s not exactly a statement of the comics being canon to the show. It’s a statement of the comics being part of the story of the greater G4 MLP universe, which contains everything they deem official (show, comics, books, cards, etc).
For example, the show is canon to the comics, the books, and the cards, and when looking at the MLP story as a whole, includes all of those things. However, if you’re only looking at the show, it’s much more ambiguous as to what is canon to it beyond itself.
First, one correction: Steven Davis is the President, not Brian Lenard (who is executive producer). My Bad.
Here are the relevant excerpts from that report:
Stephen Davis: “Our storytelling and character development extend beyond film and television. We also tell stories at retail, we tell stories on digital platforms and we tell stories through licensing.”
“We extended it into all licensed categories including publishing and apparel and drove a more robust toy business,” points out Samantha Lomow, senior vice president, global marketing, Hasbro
“We give kids and consumers the opportunity to relive the story, but what sets us apart is that we are not quite interested in telling you what happened in a particular episode, but more interested in telling you what happened between episodes,” explains Michael Kelly, director of global publishing, Hasbro. “When the TV goes off and the movie theater goes dark, those characters are alive in your imagination. We build that story out and give you stories that happen in between the episodes and movies. “A big part of our success is, from a content standpoint, that we deliver not an interpretation or adaptation, but provide original content that is expanding that universe and giving a different experience of characters,” he adds.
Citation, please.
The Hasbro VP of Marketing, the Hasbro VP of Publishing, and Brian Lenard (the President of Habsro Studios) said all the comics are canon in a June 2014 report on the state of the brand.
Never say “Never”.
I can’t think of a single fictional story that does that other than Star Wars, which actually had the system be specifically set up by LucasFilm. Generally, it’s much more common to say that everything the current author/authors of the primary medium directly made is canon, and everything else is noncanon (or well, canon only to themselves).
Take Harry Potter: the seven main books and the supplemental books are canon, but the movies aren’t. Or Dragonball (before the new movies and series made it confusing for everyone): the manga and the databooks are canon, but the anime, movies, and GT are not. Or the Legend of Zelda: the main series games made by Nintendo are canon, but the CDI games, Hyrule Warriors, and the cartoon are not.
Yeah but a lot fans, myself included, have been going with the “canon as long as it doesn’t directly contradict what happens in the show” which a lot of Expanded Universe material from other works officially do.
Hasbro has never said that the comics are canon to the show. Never.
In her college days, her boyfriend mysteriously vanished, and she blamed her sister, though Celestia had no knowledge of her BF’s whereabouts.
It just so happened that the university had been studying an ancient dig site and Luna unknowingly unleashed something that caused her to… well, become darker.
but instead of a climactic battle, Luna was able to control the power, and would use it to become a sort of vigilante known as…
Madame Do-Well
(oh shut up, I was just into the fandom when I made the idea.)
Could you link me so I can see their reaction?
Personally my theory is that Nightmare Moon in the human verse was what happened when Vice Principal Luna had a psychotic breakdown that required she spend some time in a mental hospital.
maybe someone with the money would commission someone for this pic.
i can’t do the concept justice.