Background Pony #0F62
@Appletart  
There’s only 3 ppl in this conversation and 2 of them disagree completely with you. We don’t have the problem with making sense. You do, and no amount of temper tantrums will change that.
 
If you want to write a story with badly used reasoning and logic, go ahead. Just make sure you don’t slap the wrong tag on it.
 
Thanks for giving me a couple hours of laughs.
Appletart

@Background Pony #F713
 
What i’ve explained is sound and its just you who won’t accept it.
 
END OF DISCUSSION
Background Pony #6589
@Appletart
 
Your explanation is full of holes as I have pointed out but you contiue to go back and say “What holes? I told you this is alright” Its not alright, and as detrimental as it is to me as it is to you,there are only 3 people that seem to be commenting. And two of them think your explanation is full of more holes than swiss cheese
Appletart

@Background Pony #F713
 
I have explained this before but you seem to be so dense you can’t understand it yourself but i think you meant to say it is making sense to everypony but YOU.
Background Pony #6589
@Appletart
 
I guess arguing with you is useless then because you are obviously have a stick too far up your bum to even see that what your saying may be wrong. Im sorry I tried to argue with you. Please, continue to enlighten us with your logic on how a pegasus made of metal can fly and how their body somehow contains magic… I honestly want to see your reasons but it just isnt making sense to anyone but you
Appletart

@Background Pony #58B3
 
“You can’t just make crap up and say it works.”
 
That pretty much sums up how everything in MLP works.
Appletart

  1. Pegasi can not fly without their magic, naturally their bodies are too big and heavy for their small wings and their Pegasus Magic grants them flight.
     
  2. I’ve said several times Tirek is FORCED.
     
    I won’t repeat myself again so understand these points.
Background Pony #0F62
@Appletart
 
@Background Pony #F713  
Or that his magic is usable by ponies in the first place.
 
You can’t just make crap up and say it works.
Background Pony #6589
@Appletart
 
Okay… So all thats left of her origional body is her brain… Which leads back to the point of her being an earth pony still and the fact that her body would be far too heavy to be able to fly. An infiltrator body is entirely machine, so again, too heavy for flight and the magic part doesnt make any fucking sense unless you go “lel its magic”. She shouldnt be able to have been infused with pegasus magic due to her brain being an earth pony brain… The only ponies who should be able to be infused with the magic of others are alicorns, which hold the combined power of all three races. Plus you are assuming tirek would part with his knowledge as well…
Appletart

@Background Pony #F713
 
Yes but Tirek while in Tartarus would have been forced to teach ponies how to perform his magic stealing ability. The stolen magic of criminals is than placed in storage units tied into Project Infiltrator where they would be stored until the criminal is released or remained stored if the criminal dies.
 
All that remains of Crystal’s original organic body is her Brain and by default the Infiltrator body is infused with Earth Pony magic. Upon her upgrade, that magic is removed and then replaced by the Pegaus magic.
Background Pony #6589
@Appletart
 
Okay? And when he was defeated everyone got their magic back.
Appletart

@Background Pony #F713
 
Tirek… Stole Earth Pony Magic…
Background Pony #6589
@Appletart
 
Again… She has natural earth pony magic, switching out chips in her head isnt going to change her entire magical aura. Its a machine,magic is part of a living soul. It doesnt make sense.
Appletart

@Background Pony #F713
 
The upgrade infuses her with Pegasus Magic from the ‘downer’ and she won’t have Earth Pony magic as that will be removed as it’ll be then be replaced with Pegasus Magic.
 
Crystal Empire and Alicorn Twilight not working for FoE is ENTIRELY your opinion and I never said Twilight would be an alicorn either.
 
Seasons 3 and 4 give us things to play with as writers, doesn’t matter what the subject of the story is.
 
Crystal as a machine does fit in the Fallout genre as if you’ll remember Fallout 3 and the Quest the Replicated Man, Harkness is an Android that looks human and acts human.
 
As for the outfit or the hat, she’s in the Marejave, stetsons or cowpony hats are in abundance.
Background Pony #6589
@Appletart
 
But how does she get pegasus magic? Tirek? The show never states what happens to Tirek but that doesnt make it so you could claim that equestrians somehow figured out his special magic and could suck the magic out of other ponies… Or put it into other ponies for that matter. Twilight was not an alicorn in the beginning of season 3. So I can see the crystal empire being a stretch at most but seriously… I dont think tirek or alicorn twilight belong in FoE. How would she even get pegasus magic being an earth pony? She has inherent earth pony magic, I dont think she can have both.
Appletart

@Background Pony #F713
 
Just because the original FoE was set at the end of Season 2 doesn’t mean newer fics can use elements of Season 3 or 4 and Tirek was in Tartarus before he escaped like Discord was imprisoned in stone.
 
And Crystal DOESN’T HAVE BOTH Magic and can Fly, she has Pegaus Magic that allows her to fly. Because she is a machine she could also have the experiences of flight from the pony which was the ‘downer’ which would have been necessary for successful Infiltrations for Pegasi communities. (Think of the Matrix for that)
Background Pony #6589
@Appletart
 
yes but that doesnt just give them to just will magic or fly. They would have to take months of training just to get to basic pegasus level or unicorn levels of handling. Plus tirek isnt cannon to foe due to foe taking place after S2
Background Pony #0F62
@Background Pony #F713  
Don’t you get it? She has magic and can fly because logic is stupid and you’re a hater. Leave him alone forever!!!1!!1!!1one!!
Appletart

@Background Pony #F713  
I just explained that with the Tirek part.
Background Pony #6589
@Appletart
 
So… I still dont understand. Again, if she/he whatever is a cyber pony that was an earth pony, how could they possibly have the inert magical ability to cast magic like a unicorn or have pegasus magic that allows them to fly?
Appletart

@Background Pony #33B6
 
@Background Pony #F713
 
You obviously haven’t read Influx but I’ll explain.
 
Crystal is a MARK 1 Infiltrator created by Project Infiltrator commissioned by the Ministry of Awesome but kept off the records.
 
The Mark 1s (which she is the only one of) was actually a Bio-Mechanism, she has a mechanical endoskeleton but is controlled by an organic brain (with a small computer set inside to convert her brain signals to binary so the brain could control the body) and she has organic lungs and a heart in her chest to supply her brain with oxygen.
 
The Mark 2’s are entirely mechanical under their flesh cover and utilities the Neural Processor to as the control unit plus it can store a mind to allow for ponylike thought and independent thinking. (When Crystal the Mark 1 was in development Twilight built her Crusader and Mr Horse used her tech to make a knock off of his own but later used that to make the Neural Processor)
 
There is a separate facility for the purpose of Upgrading the baseline Infiltrators. By default they are made as Earth Pony/Zebra to be sent out to infiltrate the enemy but with zebra supporting pony groups plus corrupt Equestrian government officals it was deemed necessary for the possible need to send Infiltrators into Equestrian society so some would require upgrading into Pegasi or Unicorn.
 
As of Season 4 villain Tirek who can steal magic and locked away in Tartarus I figured I could use his magic stealing abilities here.
 
Criminals of Equestria of high risk that get sent to prisons would have their magics removed using Tirek’s magic stealing spell which he would have been forced to teach the ponies so they could do it themselves. Taking the magic from the criminals also removed the possible likelihood of escape attempts as we’ve seen how it removes a Unicorns ability to use magic and a Pegasus from being able to fly. Now, I see if upgraded into a Unicorn the upgrade process also transfers over the magic from a Unicorn criminal which would then grant the Unicorn Infiltrator the ability to use magic and its the same for a Pegasus as the Pegasus magic would allow for them to fly despite their weight.
 
I won’t have it so that Crystal as a Pegasus could fly when wearing for example Steel Ranger armour. The pegasus magic would negate her weight but not the weight of what she is wearing or carrying.
Background Pony #0F62
@Appletart  
>Project Infiltrator  
Your unhealthy love for an easily arguably bad fic is far too evident.
 
>What is an Infiltrator, do you know?  
Yes I know what an infiltrator is. I also know the difference between the MoM and the MoA and don’t need to have it explained to me in another image on the SAME character.
 
Said character still appears to be a Zebra, which would be extremely suspicious as a spy in Equestria. Even Zecora was publicly outed as a “traitor” in order to solidify her cover as a double agent.
 
Now this character has wings. I smell the same logic used by clueless ponies who drink from Tainted rivers. If it’s not clear what I’m saying, this sounds like more of an “excuse” than a “reason” to give her wings. Same with the horn. Unless it serves a purpose in the story which, lets be honest, isn’t FoE anymore in the slightest there’s no reason to give a character anything other than to add another point the the Snowflake meter.
 
A black Desperado hat. I wonder if Calamity wants that back. Or is that P21’s? My my, this character must be a shameless thief. You should focus on that element. The part where things are taken from others in a shameless fashion.
 
Riot gear. Looks cool… I don’t mean to say I think it looks cool, I’m just saying it’s there because “it looks cool”.
 
A Pipbuck. Ah yes, Pipbucks are fun but you gotta be careful with those. Stable ponies are privileged. Oh and aren’t they a Crystal Pony and a Cyborg/Android in top of EVERYTHING else? I bet this character’s privilege is on par with a straight white cis male. What a Shitlord.
 
@Appletart  
I don’t care what you flamers have to say anymore so I’m going to ignore your pointless dribble.
 
>Flamers  
Awfully homophobic, don’t you think?
 
idk if I missed anything but feel free to accuse me of things.
 
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Background Pony #6589
@Appletart
 
How can a machine use magic? or logically fly?
Background Pony #EC7A
@Appletart  
That shouldn’t work though. One, she’d be too heavy to fly, making the wings useless. Two, fake horn’s don’t give you magic, like ever. Three, she can’t be sentient if she’s a machine.
Background Pony #6589
Readguy Reporting in
 
Okay… Okay…. So, a zebra is being “upgraded” into a pegasus… A DNA altering process that even taint of IMP couldnt do. I dodnt see how this could possibly work given the context of whats given in the FoE universe or fallout universe. So lore wise it doesnt make sense.
 
Nice vector though