@Animanga21
I think I know what you mean. Imagine instead of her teary eyed face was something like this
That might be actully kind amusing. But I guess you would still have all the icky moral and ethical concerns present.
@Cirrus Light
I never said she’d do it, but I just think the fact that the initial thought would be to do it would be amusing in a somewhat morbid way that she actually has to catch herself while she says it.
I don’t particularly find something like Cupcakes entertaining, but considering how touchy the classification of grimdark is in this community, I just like a little dark humour. Like, remove pony Twilight’s tears this could be kinda funny.
@Animanga21
Wanting, sure, but not doing it because
A) She realizes she can extract a lot more useful data with a cooperative subject,
B) (though of no less importance), because of ethics. Pony Twi is a freakin’ sapient being.
Meh, I don’t really see “It’s the opposite of G 3.5” as a reason to like Grimdark, but to each their own.
I think it was more the poor quality of the animation, the deathly-flat characters, and complete lack of any conflict, or anything interesting at all that made G 3.5 so horrible.
Ok, I want to be clear here. I don’t think Twilight’s a bad example of a scientific character. In fact, her primary flaws are completely unrelated to her academic inclinations, and would make her an unethical version of whatever career she chose.
The flaw I speak of is that Twilight seems to have very few higher standards and ethics of her own, and seems to unthinkingly default to whatever Celestia wants when confronted with difficult issues, when a different response is plainly more ethical (Crystal Empire) or sensical (her own ascension to royalty). Twilight’s a basically good person with little to no ability to actually consider the ramifications or implications of things.
Of course, human Twilight wasn’t apprenticed to Celestia, so perhaps she’s more well adjusted. But the point I was making was that with little regulation, I see it as very possible for Twilight to make a series of bad choices that could hurt a lot of people.
@Cirrus Light
Sure, sure, fine. I’m not looking for grimdark, I’m looking for her being more involved in science than she is in making friends and WANTING to run tests on a unicorn or pony or whatever because it’d be a pretty fucking revolutionary thing.
I just enjoy grimdark because it’s miles better than the opposite, where people pretty much go to saccharine levels nearing Gen 3.5.
Hey, Twily’s my waifu. [and however other people use it, I use it to mean: “dream girl”]
I just wish people would realize that
A) The only time she’s really done something bad was because she had a horrible, horrible nervous breakdown (the likes of which I don’t think someone who doesn’t have anxiety could even come close to understanding).
B) Even then, all she did was try to cause some fighting over a doll - which she intended to immediately fix. That’s about as far a cry from this, as Pinkie Pie making an imaginary friend is a far cry from her going psycho. Heck, Diamond Tiara has done far worse than what she intended to do.
But people for their freaky love of grimdark, still love to be stupid. I don’t mind so much when they realize that canonically, they’d NEVER do something like this, but what bothers me is when they’re so stupid that they completely over-flandarize the character and paint them as a psychopath, and legitimately believe they’re canonically like that.
That’s a thing that bugs me. It’s only when people are stupid like that that I’d think of Twi as a bad example.
But in general, I’d consider the adorkable bookworm pony to be a positive example.
“This is an anemometer…”
As for OP picture in general, I think the artist realized that Twi isn’t that way, but was just doing some not-serious/fun Halloween things and so the natural Halloween theme for Twilight was “mad science.”
IT’S EVERYONE’S FAULT! YOU SHALL ALL BURN FOR YOUR SINS!
No, but seriously, I’m not playing the blame-game, here, there’s a lot of things to it. I just wish we saw more good portrayals of scientist types in media and literature. A great example of a good portrayal is Dr. Doppler. A little stereotypical, but, nonetheless somewhat accurate to one of the physics professors I’ve had >.< (except he was even a bit more soft-spoken).
Their personalities range as much as anyone else’s, though. One professor I had was Bill Nye incarnate. “The Theory of Everything” is a new movie that’s about Stephen Hawking. He was a bit of a wild thing back in his day before the disease came over his body.
@PonyPon
Correct, but “mad scientist” is an annoying trope that far too many people seem to take seriously. The comments here about; “I could see this happening” are an illustration of that. Yes, Twilight has snapped before; but it was precisely that; it was her snapping (Lesson Zero). She didn’t do anything like this when confronted with the Pinkie Sense, though.
Also, to your first line, that’s why I put “(if it could somehow be beneficial to her playing skill)” The point was, you wouldn’t expect Octavia or Rarity to cast their ethics aside for her passion; neither would a typical passionate scientist (and not all of them are even that passionate).