@Background Pony #B7FD
I’m talking about the idiots that do that constantly. More than a few people I’ve met who support guns also talk about the many, many, MANY situations where they think using one is acceptable, none of which are “you or someone around you is in immediate physical danger.”
@Revenant Wings
People seem to be against violence except when it involves their children. “I brought you into this world so that gives me the right to make it difficult for you to sit”
@Zincy
Really? Because I was pretty sure psychopathy was an inherent imbalance in the brain, not something caused by being hit on the arse for doing something wrong. If someone’s going to grow up to shoot up a school, then they’re going to grow up to shoot up a school, no amount of coddling or negative reinforcement is going to prevent that.
@Itsthinking
The “being obnoxious with open carry” was a protest of a law banning open-carry of handguns; they carried large guns because it was still legal to open carry them. Not that the news would ever tell you that; it would get in the way of their fearmongering.
Did I say spanking was bad? I said hitting with a stick.
And I kept it in absolutes for the sake of brevity, I don’t feel like typing out every detail. The gist is, those styles of parenting are more likely to produce those outcomes than other types of parenting.
@Zincy
I was spanked as a child whenever I did something wrong. I turned out fine. Saying that the only two possible outcomes are people who are obsessed with rules or total psychopaths is insulting on a basic level. And also, making exceptions for accidents puts the idea in their head that sometimes rules can change if the right conditions are met.
The best way of doing things is known as Authoritative, or the “heavy even hand”. It’s pretty much Teddys “walk softly carry a big stick” turned to parenting.
Authoritarian parenting has shown to be just as bad as Permissive parenting, just for different reasons. Beatin your kids with a stick is just as bad as handing them the world on an ice-cream platter. Just instead of bratty fucks with no respect, you either get neutered sycophants obsessed with authority(ala my ex-fiancee, I’ll tell yea that story later) or raging sociopaths who shoot up a school.
@LuminoZero
How does teaching that there will be repercussions in any way prevent you from making a mistake? If I get distracted for a moment and rear end a car, no butt whoopings from childhood are going to make that any less likely. If the accident was something avoidable due to consistent behavior, then perhaps you can change the behavior. If it’s a one time freak accident than frankly punishment only serves as people’s lust for retribution and nothing more, it will solve nothing, help no one and certainly not improve anyone’s future, especially not the person locked in jail.
Almost maul you to death when you misbehave even just a little by your depressed as hel,l steroids lover, biological father…………….
You know, there’s a reason why I love my Stepdad more, and he actually does cares for me.
My Dad would have been different, if his own father was still alive, though he lightned up for the better when I turned 7, ironically after divorcing from my Mom, and he gave up steroids when he just learned the true facts about them, though he’s still an Eeyore……
The problem with spanking is the same problem with guns: the people who go “I have all of this power, to kill/maim a person/make sure a child remembers that they did something bad? COOL!”
So then you get people who think owning a gun is about “honor” and being obnoxious with open carry and have shitty trigger discipline that causes them to pull out their gun for someone cutting in line.
And then you have parents who use spanking for when their kid accidentally breaks something.
Things that make them fear even purely perceived failure of all sorts as well as the unpredictability of human beings and life itself to paralyzing levels.
