@Background Pony #CB23  
What a ridiculous slippery slope argument. We’re on a full booru about fictional horses. If people  
“aren’t satisfied with what they see here anymore and go looking for pictures of real [x]” just like that, we’d have seen a big uptick in people fucking real horses and trying to go on magical adventures of their own seven years ago.
 
There are infinitely worse things on the internet that are much easier for future pedophiles to find than a tiny fandom within another already niche fandom. Hell, there are more disturbing things on this site involving the CMC. The idea that fluffy pony fills some sort of malicious gap that isn’t already filled a thousand times over much more maliciously doesn’t make any sense at all.

@Background Pony #F5B8  

I think what D22B was trying to say was that people who like fluffy pony foal abuse are unsettlingly close to liking actual child abuse. While I will say that’s quite a stretch the idea that they are able to come to terms with liking a picture depicting an otherwise cute little creature being put through physical and mental torture is just…wrong. It’s wrong.
 
And what if they aren’t satisfied with what they see here anymore and go looking for pictures of real children being abused? Paedophiles exist after all, who says a variant that likes seeing abuse instead of sex doesn’t exist?

@Background Pony #22F2  

 
A really shitty argument? You can turn anything into anything else when you change the majority of it. Replace “fluffy” with “football” and “fluff” with “leather” and you can argue that the NFL is televised child abuse.

Abusers are weird. Their obsession with violence, bodily fluids (blood, urine) excrement and sex is suspect. That they love violence against animals and zoophilia is suspect. But most suspicious is that these animals behave and speak like children. After all, try to draw fluffy, standing on two legs, without fluff, with human legs, arms, face, ears and hair. Include a behavior that have small children, they are talking like little children and their maximum life span is 5 years.  
What do you get?

@Background Pony #8A82  
That’s true, in fact I’ve taken only non abusive fluffy pony art into consideration.
 
There are users who downvote fluffy ponies per se, but they’re not many. People who dislike fluffy ponies just hide the tag.

@BigMax  
But that’s still not objective, because art that is high-quality and depicts abuse is downvoted. The best abuse artists thus have low scores.
 
Case in point: Misaligned herself.

@BigMax  
Then I apologize for assuming you were just another “biased fluffy lover”.
 
It’s kinda hard to be neutral on this site honestly.

@Background Pony #B0E7  
You must have mistaken me. I’m pretty neutral when it comes to fluffy pony abuse.
 
But we’re not talking about abuse here. It’s more your thing.  
I’m talking about the art. And even it it’s legitimate for you to like quickhorn’s art more - it’s a matter of taste, after all - technically Marcus is superior, and I state it on the basis of objective parameters.
 
Fluffy pony abuse haters and lovers have a neutral ground on fluffy pony art that’s not abuse. And usually on Derpibooru the best artist stick out with their scores.  
This happens for Marcus, even in such a small niche.

@Background Pony #B0E7 Okay, let’s clarify what we mean by “abuse” here. I can’t speak for BigMax, but for me, what I define as “fluffy pony abuse” is the content where fluffy ponies are in some form or another abused, brutalized, tortured or mistreated, whether it be emotionally, psychologically or physically, for no other reason than because the “abuser” doing the abuse is getting some sick thrill or entertainment out of it. If that is what you mean by “fluffy pony abuse”, then you can beat I will automatically deem it bad and terrible. Fluffy Pony Abuse like that is disgusting and vile, and just because other people are okay with tolerating it does not mean that I have to keep quiet regarding my disgust over it.
 
On the other hand, if you are talking about, say, “fluffy pony abuse” as in those pictures where fluffy ponies are just trying to survive in a harsh world, I don’t count that as “abuse”. A winter snow is not intentionally trying to kill a fluffy pony for a cheap laugh. A falling tree does not fall in order to deprive a fluffy pony family of a den made from its roots for cruel sport (or falls on top of a fluffy pony in order to kill it because of malicious intent). That is just nature being nature; cruel, uncaring and non-malicious. Fluffy Pony stories and art pieces like that are basically “Watership Down” -style stories, and I have no problem with them whatsoever. In fact, I rather enjoy them, as it is entertaining to root for the Fluffy Ponies as they try to survive in a harsh world; the emotional pay-off when they do manage to succeed in surviving is very satisfying.
 
I have always been very clear regarding my feelings with “fluffy pony abuse”. I find it vile and disgusting, and I feel that it cannot be healthy to find joy in the abuse and torture of small animals that cannot help the way they were made, even if fictional. Finding joy in something like that is not right, in any sense of the word, so I see no reason why I shouldn’t condemn it when I see it.

@BigMax  
Once again this is all a matter of opinion. MM is good, I just like quickhorn’s style more.
 
No offence, but you and Tricorn seem like people who say abuse automatically means bad.

@Background Pony #B0E7 What the hell does my being a fan of the non-abuse Fluffy Pony content have to do with anything? Does my being disgusted by the glorified abuse and torture of small, sentient animals disqualify me from having an opinion somehow? And what does my way of drawing have to do with anything? I was just commenting on a Fluffy Pony picture that’s actually rather nice for a change.
 
But yeah, regarding Fluffy Pony artist tiers, MarcusMaximus, BDB and now Misaligned are definitely God-Tier for me.

@Background_Pony  
Well, you can take away the abusive stuff, but the result doesn’t change.  
I’m saying that because MM came out with some very good stuff. For example: >>415892  
The other did something good, but not as good.  
Among the other fluffy pony artists, I’d rather mention Skoon.

@BigMax  
You do realize that people vote down abuse just for being abuse and no other reason?
 
I’m neutral-to-hugbox, but I’ll admit that the majority of the best fluffy pony art is abuse. But that certainly doesn’t get upvoted much, and some of the best like BDB are too disturbed by Derpibooru to let their stuff be posted here.

@Background Pony #B0E7  
Mwike and quickhorn better than MM?  
I’d say no chance, Marcus is way ahead of them in technique, humor and story telling… But if you like them more, good for you.
 
The rest of Derpibooru already decided on the matter, though.
 
Mmm, what’s the tag for Pewdiepie again?

@TricornKing  
Also also, you’re a hugboxer and I think the way you ink your stuff can still use work where as misaligned is pretty flawless in all her work. This is just me though and I expect no one to share my opinion.

Mwike and quickhorn are better than Marcus in my opinion.
 
Also I don’t think score equals high quality. If that were true, than Pewdiepie is a comical genius.

@Dax Rattler  
Oh, there is some fluffy pony decent art around.  
Most of it comes from MarcusMaximus, but this one is new and pretty good too.
 
The problem is that is almost all extremely gory.

@Dax Rattler  
I know…sniff…Isn’t it beautiful?

Fluffy pony art that actually look like decent art and not something vomited up in paint…..  
 
It’s a sign of the Apocalypse I’m sure.