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Just want to point out that I don’t think that earth ponies are useless. This is just a bad joke. I actually have the head cannon that earth ponies have magic that gives them strength and agricultureness, while pegasi have magic in their wings.
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@Mayojar77
God dammit guys…
Fine, whatever. Think whatever you want to think. I’m not gonna stop you.
Sorry to say, but that’s where your argument falls apart. Twilight is a Canon Sue. A Canon Sue isn’t always the Author Avatar, and the Author Avatar can be a different character entirely. The only requirements are that they are already from the material and that they have many of the traits of a Mary Sue. Just because she’s not the Avatar of Faust doesn’t mean she isn’t sue-tiful on the inside.
Okay, first of all, a Possession Sue is what happens when a writer turns a character into his or her own Author Avatar, going back on my notion that Twilight isn’t one of Faust’s. Second, the second version is where I’m basing the definitions of the Canon Sue.
“A Canon Sue is a Mary Sue who happens to be a canonical character. This could be one of two things:
A Possession Sue. It’s more frequently referred to as Canon Sue, but it has its own article.
A professional work in which a canonical character already has the attributes of a Mary Sue.”
Those are literally the first three lines, word for word. I don’t know who wrote that, but they clearly grasp the concept better than you.
If you want it, you can find it here.
That has nothing to do with the definition of a Canon Sue. I was just stating the sources of my examples.
Then why even bring up Cracked if the article’s only going to become dated at some point?
As am I.
Well, I’m just citing my reference from the site that records the tropes themselves.
Cracked.com would disagree with you.
Okay, Zack Morris may be a Karma Houdini, but he isn’t labeled as a Canon Sue as of recently.
No, that’s not correct. It’s actually so in-correct, I just felt the urge to ask you to actually bother troping with a modicum more effort. Granted, there is overlap between the two, but I really doubt that you can call the main character from the once-popular series ‘Saved By The Bell’ a proxy for the writers, despite the fact that he is, in fact, a Canon Sue (of course, with some overlap with Protagonist Centered Morality and Karma Houdini).
An Author Avatar is merely a character who represents the author. It’s when a character becomes an escape for the author him or herself it’s when the character becomes a Canon Sue.
Actually, that’s the definition of an Author Avatar. While the two aren’t mutually exclusive, they aren’t mutually required.
Some people want to be evil. Now it’s true that not all Mary Sues are self-inserts, but I’m only giving out the definition of the Canon Sue.
Now, see, not all Mary-sues are self-inserts, just like not all self-inserts are Mary-sues. Just because the original examples are self-inserts doesn’t mean they’ve all got to be. After all, how would you explain the ‘Villain Sue’?
Actually, a Canon Sue is what happens when a character is essentially an escapist character for the author. But I hardly believe that Twilight is a dead ringer for Lauren Faust, or anything, right?
Yes. In that case, they are what’s called a ‘canon sue’, which is an inordinately overpowered and impossibly important character who is always considered the best no matter what she does that specifically came from the source material.
Really, she’s not. To quote a friend of mine:
“Mary Sue as a term stemmed from the self insertion original character introduced in a Star Trek fanfiction. If a character is canon to an intellectual property then they may be overpowered in comparison to their peers, but they are not a Mary Sue.”
You’re a little late to the party, and if you didn’t notice, the argument is about whether or not Twilight is a Mary Sue.