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@Dogman15
然而我们十分尊重美国人,承认美国的统一。
 
以前是,现在不是,我们巴不得看他们的笑话。毕竟,一群人支持台湾分裂出去,等同于天天喊着要砍我们的手指,并不是所有中国人都忍受得了。
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@Dogman15  
我要补充一点,加州和美国的关系比中国与台湾的关系更好,很大程度上是因为加州并没有分裂美国之外,而台湾却从中国分裂了出来。台湾的教科书一直在贬低中国大陆,否认中国的历史,企图去中国化。假设一下,如果加州从70年前就从美国分裂了出来,而且一直与美国处于敌对状态,那还能说美国和加州关系好吗?这其实都是一样的道理,只不过你们并没有经历这些,而我们中国人正在经历这些。
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@Dogman15  
同样的,你们常常忽略了重要的一点。你们是通过自己的利益关系而选择联系在一起(我这种说法可能会有一些错误)。美国人经常认为中国是美国的敌人,然而我们十分尊重美国人,承认美国的统一。反观中国以外的那些国家(你们的国家),你们总是想要分裂中国(台湾,新疆,西藏),鼓吹分裂主义,然而你们不知道的是中国有着5000年的历史,从夏朝(西方国家不承认这一朝代的存在,但我们的古代书籍都有提到过夏朝)到现代,中国经历过十几次的统一与分裂,就如同三国演义中所说的一样“天下大事,分久必合合久必分”,中国历代的王朝无不朝着统一中国这一目标进发,这一过程持续了5000年。而美国,在独立后发展到现在的规模仅仅用了200多年。一个200多年历史的国家讲着自身统一,却又煽动另一个有着5000年文明的统一国家分裂,这真是奇怪。我们为什么总说只有一个中国,因为历史是这样的,我们坚信这一点。你们间接性地分裂朝鲜半岛(插手朝鲜战争,导致朝鲜无法实现统一),在南斯拉夫要分裂时轰炸中国在南斯拉夫的大使馆…这种例子实在是太多了。  
最后,我想说我们只是在讨论关于历史和政治的问题,我希望我们不要因为意见的不统一而争吵。不论是谁都不会允许自己的国家分裂。你们不想让美国分裂,我们不想让中国分裂,其实都是一样的道理。只不过中间有着更多的利益冲突,媒体扭曲,而影响到了我们。  
希望你们的翻译器能够完整无误的翻译这段话,但不能避免出现翻译错误的情况。
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@Dogman15  
(I haven’t clicked that link yet.)
 
The same applies to China. Although many Taiwanese on the internet think that they should be independent, there are still some Taiwanese who insist on reunification. Most of them are older people, but they are not without young people.  
Have you heard of 1450? They are trying to make people think that there are many people who support independence, make use of the herd effect, and finally make this a reality.
 
If not for those who support reunification, China would have started. Do you believe in the ridiculous view that “the Chinese army is all committed to internal repression”?
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@TexasUberAlles  
Should a country split into two countries in case of civil war? Is America divided by civil war?
 
You are thinking of China’s split. This “China” does not mean RPC, but a civilization with a history of thousands of years.
 
Moreover, without considering the Chinese mainland’s ideas, the Taiwan government must occupy one hundred years to be independent. Let alone that Taiwan has always belonged to China.
 
And if you have always despised China and don’t put China on an equal psychological position, it’s hard for us to have a pleasant exchange.
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Sorry, my English is not good, so I can only use Chinese. I am a Chinese, and the governments of all countries will deceive their citizens, including the United States. I am sure that our Chinese government must have its own shortcomings, but our government will definitely improve itself and not deceive us. This can be truly felt in ordinary life. This is a government deception that will deceive the people. Unable to bring feelings.
I live in China. We do have some restrictions on the Internet (our national conditions are different), and the government does prevent us from seeing something. But the same is true in other countries. The US government also hides things on the Internet from the public.
In fact, you often misinterpret us because you do n’t know enough about China (you do n’t live in China) or are distorted by the media. Just like in the eyes of many people in China, the United States is a country where riots and shootings are frequent (the media of all countries will deceive the people). So I hope that you will stop judging the Chinese government’s approach because you have too few channels for understanding and insufficient evidence. It is easy to produce untrue inferences.
I hope your translator can accurately translate this paragraph, but it is difficult to avoid the situation of translation errors.
 
The Chinese government is way more restrictive on the internet than the U.S. is. You probably won’t be able to open this web page, but you should try to read it anyway: Wikipedia article on ‘Internet censorship in China’
 
 
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@TexasUberAlles
Our textbook tells us that China has not yet been unified (Taiwan, southern Tibet, Aksai Chin), and Taiwan has the conditions to become an independent country. But we will never recognize it as an independent country.
If California declared independence, would you as an American want it to truly become an independent country?
 
Despite how liberal California is, as a whole, the state gets along better with the nation than Taiwan does with China. Individial Americans, or practically half the country, may disagree with or not like the political direction California and other liberal states are taking, but we definitely don’t want to see our union of 50 states broken up. America’s enemies want to see the United States fight against itself, because they know we are weaker when we go against each other. United against a common foe, the United States is its strongest. For all our disagreements, we’re all Americans.
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@TexasUberAlles  
我们的教科书告诉我们中国尚未统一(台湾,藏南,阿克赛钦),台湾有独立成为国家的条件。但是我们绝对不会承认它是独立的国家。  
假如加利福尼亚州宣布独立,你作为一个美国人会希望它真的成为一个独立的国家吗?
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@hummmmm  
We will not let what happened more than 100 years ago happen again
 
The British being scumbags in China a hundred years ago may be a big part of the reason why the PRC are being scumbags in China today, but it still doesn’t excuse it.
 
But if they want to be independent and become a new country  
They’ve been independent for 71 years, “new” is off the table. 1 year? 2 years? Maybe 5 if there’s an ongiong conflict involved? That’s still a “breakaway province”. 71 years after a civil war left two completely separate power structures with wildly different forms of government… that’s an independent nation, sorry.
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@TexasUberAlles  
我们还是学习小马们吧。无论我们是在哪个国家,都要保持相互的和谐与友善。我们都是人类啊
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@Archonix  
可惜,最好的中国——中华民国,被打得只剩下台湾岛。担心被打,哀求着美国的帮助。  
要是蒋介石看到现在的情况,他可能会从棺材中爬出来,加入共产党。
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@Dogman15  
很抱歉,我英语不好,所以只能用中文。我是个中国人,所有国家的政府都会欺骗自己的国民,包括美国。我确信我们中国的政府肯定有自己的缺点,但我们的政府绝对会对自己进行改进,不欺骗我们,这一点我可以在平常的生活中真实地感受到,这是一个会欺骗民众的政府所无法带来的感受。  
我生活在中国,我们在网络上的确会有些限制(我们的国情不同),政府也的确会阻止我们看到一些东西。但是其他国家也一样,美国政府也会在互联网上隐藏一些东西不让民众看见。  
事实上,你们常常因为自己对于中国的了解不足(你们没有生活在中国)或被媒体扭曲事实而对于我们有曲解。就像在中国很多人的眼里,美国是一个经常发生暴乱和枪击事件的国家(所有国家的媒体都会有欺骗民众的行为)。所以我希望你们不要再判断中国政府的做法,因为你们的了解渠道太少,证据不足。容易产生不真实的推断。  
希望你们的翻译器可以准确地翻译这段话,但难以避免出现翻译错误的情况。
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@Archonix  
ROC originated from Chinese mainland.I don’t care about the partisanship between Taiwan and Chinese mainland.  
But if they want to be independent and become a new country, it will rise from partisanship to secession.At that time, the PRC can only give up the hope of peaceful reunification.
 
Incidentally, please do not smear an ordinary Chinese.  
If someone wants to hire someone to defend the Communist Party… Look at the international performance of Taiwanese, that’s the right performance.
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@Yay~
LOL I’ll believe that when the PRC has enough courage and military capacity to prove it.
The only reason the PRC isn’t invading its neighbors is because it’s too weak; its massive army is almost entirely devoted to internal suppression and couldn’t stand up longer than an afternoon against a serious first world military, and it doesn’t even have the functional capacity to mount a successful amphibious invasion of Real China across the Taiwan Strait, a fact clearly in evidence by the fact that it hasn’t done so already.
 
I said that, you are really ridiculous.  
If what you say is true, the United States will not give up using war to “liberate human rights”.The fact is, if the United States dare to do so, they will experience the power of the Chinese people.We will not let what happened more than 100 years ago happen again.
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@Archonix  
i love taiwan, because mainland china and taiwan pertain to the same ethnic group, which together created the broad and profound chinese culture with a long history
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@Dogman15  
so it does, because most chinese people are easily fooled by some anti China comments made by western countries. even so, browsing a blocked website in China with VPN is not considered illegal.
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You won’t earn your ten cents with poor arguments like that.
 
RoC is best china.
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@TexasUberAlles  
sovereignty problems are not worth debating. this conversation is over
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I translated this, and it’s nothing but Chinese communist party propaganda BS. The Chinese government it totally monioring everything. You literally can’t go anywhere in China without the government being able to know about it. There are lots of other problems with the government they won’t admit, and if you’re in China, your internet connection will block you from seeing the proof, most likely.
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LOL I’ll believe that when the PRC has enough courage and military capacity to prove it.
The only reason the PRC isn’t invading its neighbors is because it’s too weak; its massive army is almost entirely devoted to internal suppression and couldn’t stand up longer than an afternoon against a serious first world military, and it doesn’t even have the functional capacity to mount a successful amphibious invasion of Real China across the Taiwan Strait, a fact clearly in evidence by the fact that it hasn’t done so already.
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@TexasUberAlles  
The Republic Of China has been dead since 1949. Now there is only one China in the world.That is People’s Republic Of China.And the Taiwan is a province of China.
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@Jixiangniao  
The Republic Of China has been an independent nation with no allegiance whatsoever to the mainland since 1949.  
Cope.
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@hummmmm  
是有道理,我码字太仓促不过脑😂
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@Yay~  
你这样说,他们肯定不信,反而会觉得你被洗脑了。而且,更准确的描述是“中央政府没有撒谎”。  
中国政府或许会把某些事情埋起来,等到你有能力和眼界的时候,再自己去认识这件事情(省得某些人总是提起天安门坦克的事情,说政府迫害人民);但他们基本上是不会撒谎的。
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@Archonix  
但是我活得很好。不怕枪击,病毒,谋杀。因为我们有很好的政府。政府没有撒过谎,因为他们的宗旨就是为人民服务。这是永恒不变的。