@Background Pony #4C26
No one really cares about 9/11 anymore, it’s lost all it’s edge cause people beat it to death. The real edgy thing to do now a days is to be an upstanding individual with their own opinions, since people really seem to hate that cause it shows them how bad they really are.
@Background Pony #A60F
Whether or not you think it’s art or funny isn’t up to me since both are subjective, however to say that these ideas shouldn’t be expressed in any medium completely disreguards the purpose of art and humor. Humor is what we use to make light of the constant suffering intrinsic to the human experience, so to take that away is to take away the way that some people cope with tragedy. Then art is used a mirror to portrey subjective experience, even if that experience is the proclivity for people to commit atrocities. Everyone is capable of evil, so to claim some sort of moral high ground on an edgy mlp drawing, just seems really weird to me fam.
>inb4: wow, he’s arguing opinions on the internet
@Background Pony #A60F
Humor is not about making light of things, its about showing us how rediculous humans can be. We laugh because we know we are better than that, not because it is okay.
@Slamjam
Just keep in mind that you’re in an extremely unpopular camp and no one in their right mind would vouch for that statement. There’s art, and then there’s edgy tactless crap like this. And this picture is not art, in both context and quality. And I would slap the artist in the face if I ever met them.
There are some things that you just can’t romanticize. School shootings are one thing that are too abhorrent, senseless, and evil to do so with. And shame on you for defending this.
Political perspective below, for any of you who want a CIVIL debate:
First of all, I have heard the argument that the founding fathers could not have imagined modern weapons. For NBC weapons, I might agree, but as for firearms, at the time there were numerous prototypes for repeating firearms, cannons, and missiles. They were well aware of rapidly advancing firearms technology, and remember: some were inventors. In addition, their stated intent was to have a populace that could keep a corrupt or abusive government in check. And remember, in the 18th, 19th, and very early 20th century, there was little or no distinction between military and civilian weapons.
There are forms of gun control that work (A). There are forms that don’t work(B). And then there are some of those in the books that are outright convoluted(C).
(= current federal law)
(#= current CA state law)
(A)
1:background checks work WHEN ENFORCED. It is still possible for convicted felons and others who cannot legally own firearms to get them, but they are harder to come by, and with proper ENFORCEMENT, can be caught
2:# Firearm Safety Tests, as they stand in CA, ensure basic competency. As an NRA Range Safety Officer, I have seen this in action.
3:# Safe Handling Tests prior to delivery of the firearm fulfill a similar role as A2.
4:MOST aspects of the National Firearms Act. I support the regulations regarding SBRs, SBSs, silencers, and machine guns (and components thereof such as drop-in auto sears and bump stocks) The sole exception to my support include it’s limits on the date of manufacture of machine guns.
5: IF DONE PROPERLY, red flag laws. What do I mean by “done properly”? The reporting must prove in a COURT OF LAW, BEFORE confiscation, and giving the gun-owner a chance to face his/her accusers, that said gun owner poses a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to others. Any confiscation expires after 365 days, and in order to be renewed, the court proceedings must be repeated. Any confiscated firearms should be preserved for future return, or else transferred or sold to a party of the OWNER’S CHOICE, and JUDGE’S CONSENT. Should the firearm be lost or destroyed, the owner should be awarded TWICE the firearm’s value, including any accessories.
6: *current differentiation between what constitutes a firearm and a cannon.
7: restrictions on incendiary, explosive, or tracer ammunition in fire-prone areas.
8: mandatory safe storage in homes with children ( )
9: # mandatory reporting of theft, simply to protect the owner from charges relating to unauthorized use of the firearm by an unauthorized party.
10: STATES mandating permits and/or training for CONCEALED carry
(B)
1:# outright bans or “reasonable justification” clauses on the purchase or ownership of ANY firearm, firearm accessory, or caliber.
2:# magazine limits, on account of unenforceability.
3:# requiring “loaded chamber indicators” or “drop safety tests” as mechanical devices can fail, and can result in a sense of false security, resulting accidental discharge.
4:# Any prohibition of the unloaded, or open, carry of firearms.
(C)
1:# California’s definition of “assault weapons”
2:# California’s handgun roster. As it stands, you can have two functionally identical firearms, by the same manufacturer, but one might be excluded from the roster solely on account of it’s color scheme. That is asinine.
Personally, as for the term “Assault Rifle”, I have always gone by the military’s definition. Assault rifles are machine guns, and regulated under the NFA (which, aside from it’s date of manufacture clause, I personally agree with).
AR-15s, and other modern sporting rifles (which gun-grabbers have coined “assault weapons” specifically to make them sound scary and to encourage the uneducated to conflate them with “Assault Rifle”) are not machine guns unless they are modified with an auto-sear, trigger crank, or similar mechanism (which IMHO, includes bump stocks)… at which point the NFA applies.
And don’t get me started on the ban on revolving action shotguns….
If it is not a machine gun, it is semi-auto, a revolver, or single-action, it is a civilian firearm, and functionally no more or less deadly than any other civilian firearm (of the same caliber and action), and gun grabbers are targeting it’s ergonomics and non-firing, non-silencer accessories.
In addition, I feel that magazine capacity limits are effectively unenforceable without illegal search and seizure, especially with 3D printers and the black market.
