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@heckaboo  
That’s way too big of an assumption. Considering the fact that the presence of the fandom and its impact is what led to sites like this existing.
 
It’s unfair to lop every single fan into one category and simply say that they’re “leaving the fandom in droves” (not to mention pretentiously pompous since that’s the exact same BS some of the “MLP sucks” crowd using excuse to give themselves emotional validation), especially since the ones that hate the series just because of a few changes to the status quo are a minority amongst the more vast amount of people who can enjoy the show despite a few flaws here and there.
 
Case in point, the links I shared below, basically a majority of the people who despise MLP just because of a few changes are nestled into that little group. At the time of this comment, they barely have 200 members under their Banner, another example can be drawn to the EQG group on the same site has 2712 members.
 
Why is this relevant you ask? Because both of these groups came out in the exact same year only a few months apart, and this was directly after the events of Twilight becoming an alicorn. So Not only was the hate train already running full force, but this was the point where a large amount of people hated the concept of EQG before it was even given a chance…. and yet not only did it spawn its own spin off, but the amount of fans who liked it pretty much completely eclipse those who hate it.
 
So it’s completely unfair to say that The Phantom is in Decline when we can still help something that had a lot going against it grow into what it is now. Especially since not only will be be getting another movie after season 9, but also a 5th generation less than a year after the 4th one ends.
 
Basically speaking, this section of the fandom is a very miniscule yet verbose one, and it’s going through the “hate-fad”, which is basically the whole “Starlight is the cancer of the series and needs to die” fad which has gotten old to the point where them continuously harping on about it has just gotten less amusing and more pathetic.
 
I mean, they’ve already gone from hating Spike to the CMC, to Twicorn, to EQG (and Sunset & Flash by proxy), to Twilight’s castle.
 
And each one of those “hate-fads” has pretty much died off and are barely acknowledged or taken remotely seriously, and the Starlight hate-fad will eventually keel over as well.
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@Vivace  
That is why the MLP fandom is in decline while other fandoms (except for the SU fanbase) are growing whenever something new is coming in, which in turn overshadow the former.
 
The sane people who were into MLP have left the fandom in droves and moved on because of the stupid drama that involved somepony.
 
In other words, I don’t think the MLP:FiM fandom will not last for another 10 years, unlike the Trekkies and the Evangelion fandom.
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Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!

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@darknessRising24  
How many of them also think that only the first three episodes are good.  
The only episode she actually wrote
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@northern haste  
Sadly yes.
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Cutest Little Devil - Celebrated the 14th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!

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@northern haste
They think that everything that Lauren wrote was objectively gold
 
Does that include the diamond Dogs being black edgy teenagers?
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@northern haste  
They think that everything that Lauren wrote was objectively gold and everything after that is garbage, too delusional to think outside the box.
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@Vivace  
I won´t have another discussion about that.  
Stop it.
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Jeez. The last time I remember fandom whining so hard over not getting what they wanted, Obi-Wan Kenobi had defeated Maul in a 3-move duel on Tatooine.
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@genervt  
Using material that didn’t make the final cut, so is effectively non-canon? Did it hurt to stretch that far?
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Cutest Little Devil - Celebrated the 14th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!

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@darknessRising24  
Don’t those people also I think I season 1 and 2(mostly 1) were exactly the way Lauren Faust wanted them?  
And hasbro only started doing corporate mandates after she left?
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I wouldn´t count it out.  
On Twitter on August 4, 2018, between the magazine​[​specify​]​ comic Super Sub! and The Washouts, Jim Miller was asked, “is Lightning Dust capable of being reformed into a protagonist”, and answered, “I’m sure if that’s a story a writer wanted to tell, we could make it work.”
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Fun fact she was originally going to be redeemed In Wonderbolts Academy but It got cut for some reason, Its pretty obvious the writers have no plans to redeem her.
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These guys actually have some pretty cool ideas
You know, maybe if you stopped being so condescending…
 
Yeeeeeeah, about that:
 
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201654/we-hate-whats-happened-to-mlp/thread/361756/unpopular-opinions
 
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201654/we-hate-whats-happened-to-mlp/thread/127700/why-do-we-hate-whats-happened-to-mlp?page=3#comment/6042882
 
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201654/we-hate-whats-happened-to-mlp/thread/368741/cerr-a-matter-of-principals-s08e15#comment/6537316
 
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201654/we-hate-whats-happened-to-mlp/thread/367373/cerr-yakity-sax-s08e14#comment/6523612
 
Glass houses.
 
They’re all stuck in the past and desperate for any emotional validation they can get out of whining about the show. In the end they don’t want the show to improve, they want it to regress.
 
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201654/we-hate-whats-happened-to-mlp/thread/352726/raven-vs-twilight-sparkle
 
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201654/we-hate-whats-happened-to-mlp/thread/349606/so-sick-of-friendship
 
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201654/we-hate-whats-happened-to-mlp/thread/354850/two-things-unfortunately-tempest-is-coming-back-concerning-artist-training-grounds#comment/6368214
 
I’ve actually seen a few of them talking about how the entire series should just end with everything after season 2 being just a dream Twilight was having
 
 

 
…because completely erasing six seasons worth of character development, story progression, for expansion, and World building just for the sake of appeasing a few whiny Fanboys wouldn’t be completely stupid at all…
 
 
Look, I know they’re desperate to pretend that everything in the show sucks because of one character or a simple change to the status i, but they need to stop pretending that literally everyone in the world but them is allowed to be right, it’s pretentious.
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I don’t really like these “you don’t even know what you want!” accusations. Usually, the fans DO actually what they want, and they even tell it to you, but by creating a false argument you can pretend that they don’t, just so that you can dismiss them without actually bothering to even understand them. Which is silly…right? You’re definitely not just doing this to stir misunderstanding and unneccessary conflict instead of mutual appreciation? Right? …Background Pony? Hello?
 
@darknessRising24  
“these idiots”  
  • reads - These guys actually have some pretty cool ideas  
    You know, maybe if you stopped being so condescending…But it got me an unintended recommendation so cool I guess
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@Wechselbalg  
Discord frankly shouldn’t have been redeemed with how long term his actions were, not without actually having to do somethig to help people instead of just hanging around being a nuisance instead of a threat.  
Put him on parole, right and proper, or leave him as a lawn ornament in the bottom of a sealed tank of purified water three miles from any non-stationed operatives.
 
Same on Luna, couldn’t care less about what the elements did to her, as she made that deal knowing full well how far the consequences would go, and who she’s related too. She can move the moon without having a crown on her head.
 
The Pony of Shadows wasn’t redeemed, Stygian, who acted as a host was freed, while the entity itself was banished to who know’s where with the Equestrian track record.
 
As for the Changelings, war crimes are war crimes, and they didn’t seem to have much of a problem with them before Thorax tipped the scales away from them, so arguably Chrysalis’s top brass, who were apparantly trusted enough to command their own divisions with minimal if any oversight, by what Pharynx said, would be held accountable.
 
Frankly I’ve never liked the concept of just letting them have everything they forfieted handed back to them in the first place, but this issue has little to do with how I dislike the show’s handling of characters who at best were only marginally antagonistic in their original appearance.
 
Like how Flim and Flam weren’t con artists but opportunistic traveling salesman with a genuinly decent offer, using the practice of aiming high and shooting low to try and bring the split of profits into a mutually favorable level.
 
Everything involving the farm being put on bet and the fact the Apples went trough with it is on their pride and arrogance, not Flim and Flam.
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@genervt  
That’s good, because this fandom literally complains at the most insignificant thing on a episode.
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You are not the only one OP.
Who understands this fandom…
 
Just to make that clear:  
I never complained about a redemption and I don´t think I ever will.
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You are not the only one OP.
 
Who understands this fandom…
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Most characters who have been redeemed actually were villains. With the exception of Trixie, Babs Seed, Gilda, and Diamond Tiara.
 
That’s, uh, alot. Major Villain who really redeemed are Discord, Starlight, Luna, and Pony of shadows.
 
That’s like, 50 percent of them.
 
|| Changelings doesn’t count. They used to be drones under a tyrant, not necessarily evil by itself. ||
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Ah, I misunderstood then, I though you were referrig to the consitency of the writing/characterization.
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@ExistenceNull  
I was referring to the redemption thing.
 
Also, if you want to be technical, no one deserves to be redeemed… Redemption is given to anyone who is willing to accept it and won’t go back to their old ways..
 
Lightning Dust didn’t get redeemed because she’s not a villain.
 
Most characters who have been redeemed actually were villains. With the exception of Trixie, Babs Seed, Gilda, and Diamond Tiara.
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@TheMultiBrony21  
I find the ‘it’s a children show’ thing to be rather lackluster.
 
Just because it’s for kids doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done well, or fall flat because of that self same reason.
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@Minus  
Well it IS a children’s show… Not to mention that the ones who aren’t redeemed aren’t really villains, they’re antagonists.
 
In some works of fiction, the Antagonist is the good guy and the Protagonist is the villain
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The writers are at fault though. Redeeming only the most evil of villains, the ones that did not deserve it. And then keeping someone who was never evil firmly in the villain role. It’s like they’re scared of a legitamate villain being allowed to stay as one. Chrysalis was the sole exception and she’s… Kinda stopped beign a threat. She’s now so powerless she doesn’t need anyone to interfere for her plans to fail.  
It all feels quite intentional to ensure there’s never any real sense of worry or fear. Which is a shame.
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It could be worse.
There are still people claiming King Sombra needs to return… He’s dead. Get over it.
 
Actually you might be wrong there.