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reversalmushroom
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).

You're gay.
@Background Pony #ABE6  
Cadence did way more to get the heart than Spike did. All he did was run 20 feet onto a ledge. She flew all the way over there, got him and the heart, and brought and put it where it needed to go. Spike is nothing compared to that and doesn’t deserve the “hero of the Crystal Empire” title. Cadence does, and it would’ve given her some much-needed development since she’s the least popular princess by far with the least depth.
Background Pony #EE2E
@Background Pony #ABE6  
You saw how Twilight figured out where the heart was, found the hidden passage to it, made her way up to the top in lights speed with her up-side-down magic… and Twilight passing the burden to Spike was her OWN idea. As Spike was delivering the heart, he clumsy fell, and Shining Armor saves him AND the heart.
Background Pony #ABE6
@Background Pony #EE2E  
That’s not what happens at all in the Crystal empire. Twilight passed the burden of securing the heart on to spike because she knew she was trapped. That you focus on spike supposedly getting al the praise instead of the fact that Twilight made an important SACRIFICE, which was the whole point of the episode, that she couldn’t do everything alone… only shows that you did not understand the point of that decision because of an irrational bias against spike.
Background Pony #EE2E
After Spike being tortured and used as a punching bag, the fans wanted to give him a “new” character development by begging the writers to do so because they couldn’t stand any of that.
 
Spike got all credit for no reason in “The Crystal Empire” despite all the hard work and roles the other characters had played. Like Twilight, she did most of it.
 
In “Gauntlet of Fire,” I was wondering where Garble’s hatred of ponies came from and why anyone would invade an entire land to get something more comfortable to sleep on instead of rocks. And dragons aren’t able to use magic, so they are without a doubt weak and harmless enough.
Background Pony #60FE
Yes, your so great Spike. Let’s just ignore the fact the every one of your episodes has you falling flat on your face.
Spike Number 1 Assistant

@detction
 
“…or people just didn’t like a poorly written character.”
 
The only thing i have to disagree with on this is how fickle fans can be. People would define spike this way, but yet flock to Derpy, who does nothing and adds nothing, but people like her for being a meme.
Background Pony #0E43
@reversalmushroom  
The Spike hate started when a few years ago a bunch of insecure idiots decided that the only way to feel better about their sad selves, was to hate and insult the show’s most prominent male character, because he constantly reminded them of everything they wished they could have, but will never do.
 
So basically, just supressed jealously and insecurity.
 
Add to it that everytime a new wave of people joined the fanbase, you’d inevitably have the typical group who looks for a bandwagon to join, so they can look “cool” from the begining in the eyes of older fans whenever they’re talking about the show.
Background Pony #C100
@detction  
I think of the episode this way: It was a concept they came up with waaaaay back in Season 1 before they’d cemented Spike’s characterization. Rather than just scrapping it, though, they just wound up pushing it waaaaaay futher along like they did with Magic Duel, only unlike Magic Duel it wound playing in a season where it really didn’t make much sense.
 
So if we take the show’s sort of anachronistic episode order for Seasons 1 through 3 into account, I just assume that this particular adventure took place quite a bit earlier into Spike and Twilight’s stay in Ponyville, before the kid became the Hero of the Crystal Empire. That’s my head canon and I’m sticking to it.
reversalmushroom
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).

You're gay.
@detction  
There’s also that:
 
  1. It doesn’t make sense for him to be obsessed with the dragon code and being a good dragon when he knew nothing about his race his whole life up until recently, and when he got to know them he decided he didn’t want to be like them and wanted to live as a pony.
     
  2. That ridiculous sitcom solution they all tried to do where they tried to fake Spike saving Applejack. 1 of the things I dislike about the show now is that it’s often written like a sitcom, where the characters act ridiculously. Instead of acting like real people like they (usually) did in the Faust era, they now make mountains out of molehills, ignore obvious solutions, and come up with ridiculous schemes to solve them. It feels like if this were the 1st 2 seasons, none of them would’ve even suggested it, Twilight would’ve tried talking to Spike 1-on-1, and if that didn’t work, they would’ve tried to have some intervention with all of them, and if 1 of them did suggest it, it would’ve been done as a joke, and the others would’ve all shut it down instead of giving it legitimacy (and this wouldn’t’ve even been a problem in the 1st place since they wouldn’t even have Spike suddenly become completely incompetent at everything even at things he did just fine before).
     
  3. This episode doesn’t add anything to his character, so it’s filler. 1 of the good things about episodes was that you really felt like when a character learned something, they were different from that point onward. But Spike thinks if someone saves his life, he has to be their slave, and at the end of the episode…he doesn’t? That’s not a moral that can be applied to the audience. That’s specific to his life situation and not a moral lesson. And he never had this problem in previous episodes, so they made him worse in this episode and then brought him back up to where he was before this episode, so there’s no real growth. A moral lesson for the audience would’ve made the episode more significant because it would’ve had a permanent change. But it feels like if you took this episode out, the character wouldn’t lose anything.
     
  4. This is minor, but they went back on the progress made by Dragon Quest by having Spike return Peewee. 1 of the things good about this show is that unlike most shows, it actually changes over time. So having Spike get a new pet and then immediately returning it is going back. Imagine if you watched May The Best Pet Win, and then the very next episode opened with her returning Tank. If only they would do that with Alicorn Twilight.
     
  5. Also, it was Applejack instead of Rarity when it so should’ve been Rarity. She’s the one everyone would’ve wanted to see because she’s the obvious choice for the “becoming a character’s slave trope”. It feels like such a missed opportunity. It was originally supposed to be her, but the writers decided she was “too mean”, but it’s unknown how so.
     
    Faust described season 1&2 story editor Rob Renzetti as her “Mr. Spock” with his job being to make sure the logic of episodes held up, and everyone puts the show’s quality squarely on her, but he had a lot to do with it, and honestly, the problems with this episode and future episodes are what happens when a man like that leaves. The 1st 2 seasons weren’t perfect, but another problem I have with the show now is that episodes overall just aren’t nearly as airtight as they used to be. They just tend to have a lot more problems.