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  1. anon_de_plume

    anon_de_plume Porn Star

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    And I just showed you two instances where you are wrong in your interpretation of Mueller's words. Forgive me if I don't accept your version of "atface value".
     
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    1. shootersa
      When shooter responded he didn't expect you or any despicable to accept any of shooters points.

      He recalled that no despicable flatly stated that they would accept the findings of the mueller report before it was released. Shooter said he would, but no despicable would.

      So why would he expect any different response after the report was issued?
       
      shootersa, May 29, 2019
    2. anon_de_plume
      And you're still wrong.
       
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      Also, you don't accept Mueller's report, you accept Barr's interpretation.
       
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    4. shootersa
      Shooter said, before the report was released, that he would accept the findings of the Mueller report. As shooter recalls, it was you demanding a stand and then you refused to do the same.

      Shooter accepts the fjndings of the mueller report.
      All of it.
      Not just what Barr or despicables say is in it.
      Now, pigeon, fly away.
       
      shootersa, May 29, 2019
    5. anon_de_plume
      You're right, I refuse to accept Barr's interpretation. But you suck it up, hook, line, sinker, rod, and reel...
       
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  2. stumbler

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    Seriously shootersa you are just such a lying impotent non-fucking joke.

    Let's just look at some of the Mueller report shall we?

    n brief, the key facts are that, on June 3, 2016, Robert Goldstone emailed Donald Trump Jr., to pass along from Emin and Aras Agalarov an “offer” from Russia’s “Crown prosecutor” to “the Trump campaign” of “official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to [Trump Jr.’s] father.” The email described this as “very high level and sensitive information” that is “part of Russia and its government’s support to Mr. Trump-helped along by Aras and Emin.” Trump Jr. responded: “if it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.” Trump Jr. and Emin Agalarov had follow-up conversations and, within days, scheduled a meeting with Russian representatives that was attended by Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner. The communications setting up the meeting and the attendance by high-level Campaign representatives support an inference that the Campaign anticipated receiving derogatory documents and information from official Russian sources that could assist candidate Trump’s electoral prospects.

    This series of events could implicate the federal election-law ban on contributions and donations by foreign nationals, 52 U.S.C. § 30121(a)(1)(A). Specifically, Goldstone passed along an offer purportedly from a Russian government official to provide “official documents and information” to the Trump Campaign for the purposes of influencing the presidential election. Trump Jr. appears to have accepted that offer and to have arranged a meeting to receive those materials. Documentary evidence in the form of email chains supports the inference that Kushner and Manafort were aware of that purpose and attended the June 9 meeting anticipating the receipt of helpful information to the Campaign from Russian sources.

    The Office considered whether this evidence would establish a conspiracy to violate the foreign contributions ban, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371; the solicitation of an illegal foreign-source contribution; or the acceptance or receipt of “an express or implied promise to make a [foreign-source] contribution,” both in violation of 52 U.S.C. § 30121(a)(1)(A), (a)(2). There are reasonable arguments that the offered information would constitute a “thing of value” within the meaning of these provisions, but the Office determined that the government would not be likely to obtain and sustain a conviction for two other reasons: first, the Office did not obtain admissible evidence likely to meet the government’s burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these individuals acted “willfully,” i.e., with general knowledge of the illegality of their conduct; and, second, the government would likely encounter difficulty in proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the value of the promised information exceeded the threshold for a criminal violation, see 52 U.S.C. § 30109(d)(1)(A)(i).

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html

    Now you talk about a lying fraud there you are. The only reason Mueller didn't charge Don Jr is because he might not be able to prove he knew he was breaking the law. And they couldn't put a value on the information they got.
     
  3. shootersa

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    Well fraud, according to despicable interpretations of the law, this is nothing more than opposition research.

    But spin on.
     
  4. stumbler

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    @shootersa

    OMG shootersa you just caught yourself in another one of your own lies.

    You are not accepting the findings of the Mueller report. All you have tried to do, including right here, is just tell lie after lie after lie about what the Mueller Report says. So instead of accepting the Mueller report you are trying to dany it.
     
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      So. You claim to have read the Mueller report twice? And both times you missed it where he wrote "it does not exonerate him"?

      Funny how it only made it into the copies of the report given to the "despicables", to use a word you do understand.

      And by chance, what context are you taking it? The one where Mueller does not mean the words he uses?
       
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      Mueller also did not state they had evidence of obstructio, rather that there were some 10 incidents qhere the president MAY HAVE acted .........

      So, bottom line, until congress impeaches Trump you got not enough to say Trump is guilty.

      And yes, Muler did state that neither trump or any member of his organization cooperated with, conspired with, or colluded with the Russians.

      So, exonerated on the russian thingy and we'll see does congress have the brass to impeach Trump.
       
      shootersa, May 30, 2019
    5. anon_de_plume
      So you're putting words in Mueller's mouth by telling us what he DID NOT say? Interesting.

      But I don't need to take your word on this, there are now close to 950 ex-federal prosecutors that say there is enough evidence to charge anyone else with a crime. A sitting president, on the other hand needs to be impeached.
       
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    6. shootersa
      Ex being the operative term.

      So we'll see does Congress have the brass to impeach Trump.
      It will take a miracle to get him out of office that way, but have at it. Congress isn't taking care of our business anyway, so maybe at least it will keep the numb skulls from other mischief.
       
      shootersa, May 30, 2019
  5. Mayling

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    @stumbler, the Mueller report is over rated. It's a hodge podge mumbo jumbo bunch of bullshit.
     
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  6. stumbler

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    Trump finally admits Russia helped get him elected
    “I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected,” the president tweeted.

    *And once again what we are really looking at is mental illness where Trump swings from one extreme to the other.

    https://www.vox.com/2019/5/30/18645526/trump-russia-elected-help-twitter
     
    1. submissively speaking
      I don’t think he appreciates the difference between the two statements, personally.
       
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  7. shootersa

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    So, how many votes did Russia get for Trump?
     
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      "That shooter defends Trump "no matter what" speaks more to the continual lies, spin, and bullshit despicables spew about Trump."

      I think it laughable that someone who defends a liar can have any credibility in calling other people liars, but go right ahead. Show me one lie that I've told about anything, let alone Trump. I dare you!

      And reasoned discussion? Again, you defend a liar. What reason could you possibly offer in defending a liar? It is impossible for you, personally, to have a reasoned discussion.

      I know you won't consider anything, and you demand a reasoned discussion...

      Again, Sir Alien of the Pigeon Twat, what lies have I told about Trump.

      Put up, or shut up.
       
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      Attaboy
      Pigeon
      Chess

      How many votes did trump get because of Russian interference?
       
      shootersa, May 31, 2019
    4. anon_de_plume
      Just as I thought, all talk... But doesn't really surprise me from a Trumpette.
       
      anon_de_plume, May 31, 2019
    5. shootersa
      Attaboy!

      Shooter must stop thinking that any discussion with a despicable is worth the effort. They always end up trying to divert the discussion when their thinking is challenged and then end up throwing personal insults.

      Incredibly arroganr.

      There are only two ways to avoid this outcome. Agree wholeheartedly with whatever they say or do not engage them in the first place.
       
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      Says the man who defends the king of personal insults...
       
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  8. stumbler

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    Ask Trump. He obviously knows it was enough to get him elected.
     
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    One thing that is just obvious is the people who Trump and his supporters want to go after are willing to testify. And Trump and his associates are not. And all it takes is just common sense to know who is guilty.

    ‘Pee tape’ dossier author Christopher Steele will speak with US officials: report


    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/pe...r-steele-will-speak-with-us-officials-report/
     
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  10. submissively speaking

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    I feel like even if there were a pee tape it wouldn’t matter.
     
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      Did you notice, subby, that Steele has only agreed answer questions about his relationship with the FBI??

      Not about his instructions from Fusion GPS, who gave them to him, his understanding of who paid for the dossier, his sources, did he even attempt to verify any part of the allegations, and all documentation and notes related to his dossier.

      Maybe we could get Congress to issue a subpoena.
       
      shootersa, Jun 5, 2019
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      "Maybe we could get Congress to issue a subpoena."

      Congress can't compel a foreigner to testify unless they are residing in this country.
       
      anon_de_plume, Jun 5, 2019
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    Don't worry my liberal friends. William Barr will be handing out indictments...

    So I guess the end justifies the means after all....:thumbsup:
     
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  12. stumbler

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    I will just lay down the marker again Barr isn't going to indict anyone.

    And why should Steele or anyone else comply with a subpoena if Trump and all his associates don't have to?
     
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  13. anon_de_plume

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    Really? For what? Please do be specific as to what crimes have been committed.
     
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    Russian Troll Farm Spread More Misinformation Than Previously Known, Says Report

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russi...information-than-previously-known-says-report
     
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    Donald Trump Jr. Agrees to Be Interviewed by Senate Intelligence Committee

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/donal...-interviewed-by-senate-intelligence-committee
     
  16. stumbler

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    There is a lot of speculation right now the real reason the Republicans called Don jr back is so he could amend his testimony to avoid a perjury charge.

    But it might have been jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Because one thing the Democrats are zeroing in on is an overlooked part of the Mueller report where other witnesses said knowledge of the meeting between Don jr and the Russians was actually well known to a much larger group than they have admitted. And it would seem very doubtful Trump knew nothing about it in advance.
     
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  17. stumbler

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    Trump Open to Receiving Foreign Info on 2020 Opponent, Says ‘FBI Director Is Wrong’ About Reporting It

    https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trum...ays-fbi-director-is-wrong-about-reporting-it/
     
    1. anon_de_plume
      Now if only any of his supporters cared...
       
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  18. submissively speaking

    submissively speaking Sassochist

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    Accepting proffered assistance from a foreign adversary operating clearly against the interests of US citizens - whether they are political adversaries or not; these are his countrymen - and not notifying the FBI is, well, about as clear a violation of the oath of office as there could be.

    That oath swears to protect and defend the Constitution, against all enemies foreign and domestic.

    Hillary Clinton is an American, entitled to and deserving of every protection and means of defense.

    He wasn’t fit to swear that oath on the day of his inauguration, and his recent comments clearly outline how he isn’t fit to sit the position he holds today.

    You could argue he didn’t know or understand the gravity then. You could float that argument. But today? No. He’s had a couple of years now to get up to speed, and not only has he not done that, he’s utterly remorseless about it.

    Time for something to be done.
     
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      "a couple of years now to get up to speed"

      A lifetime of years isn't enough for this one...
       
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  19. stumbler

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    Which is why what we are looking at is actual mental illness. Trump simply could not grasp that what he was saying is illegal, anti-US and an impeachable offense all on its own.

    And now even Republicans like Lindsey Graham are being forced to repudiate what he said.

    While Trump is tweeting a denial and another one of his who are you going to believe me or your own lying eyes tweets.
     
  20. shootersa

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    Incredibly hypocritical, but no matter. If you don't like Trump in the oval office, find a candidate that can beat him and vote them into office.
    If you can find a candidate who can beat Trump.

    And the fact that this remains somewhat in doubt among despicables tells a clear story of what the despicables can bring to the next election.
     
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      Not hypocritical at all, we've been over this.

      Buying a Russian car is one thing. Russia giving you a car is another.
       
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