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Oh man it’s been a little while since I pushed out a new comic eh? Well I guess the S8 premier is a good way to get back into the groove again eh? :P Actually this comic unlike the last many have posted and even on my old account have been many months old when I first started. This comic I actually started in February and while it did need some updating a little it wasn’t too too bad. The first Twilight is a little…odd…IDK I still have a pain in the ass time making Twilight no matter how many years now I been doing pony. She’s so tricky and it’s honestly the hair. Muffin is as usual hidden in these comics.
So yeah this comic was such a fun comic to come up with. I think I was in this class I am currently taking and all of a sudden this just came to mind. I was just brainstorming ideas and literally it just came to me that the Friendship School has to be funded from somewhere and since Twilight is the principal….what if she is forced to pay for it all? :P So basically that’s where this comic sprung from. Kind of had to completely wing the BGs cause even in the leaked EPs there was only one EP that had any indication of what the inside of the school looked like in Twilight’s room in the school. Maybe it’s a common room, I don’t know but we’ll see as we go forward in the season. ;) Honestly though for a first attempt and a rare BG type I ever made before it’s not too shabby but man it could use a lot of work if I have to do this type of backgrounds later in another comic this season.
So I am writing this at 744am….I am tired and off to bed. :) Back to the old grind of the season. I think this comic is the on-set of a 3rd style I have now. You have my single pics with the shading, my classic show style, and then this one which is without the shading in a sense of the single pics and more comic based. I will explain on my plans and what I plan to do on the leaked EPs. It kind of would defeat the purpose of making a pure pre-EP like comic like this since I saw the leaked EPs MONTHS ago and numerous times since December but I have a couple ideas and I will share those in a journal maybe this week. Luckily we got next 4 EPs that had no leakes to them so I am going in blind like others. Oh Snap!
So yeah this comic was such a fun comic to come up with. I think I was in this class I am currently taking and all of a sudden this just came to mind. I was just brainstorming ideas and literally it just came to me that the Friendship School has to be funded from somewhere and since Twilight is the principal….what if she is forced to pay for it all? :P So basically that’s where this comic sprung from. Kind of had to completely wing the BGs cause even in the leaked EPs there was only one EP that had any indication of what the inside of the school looked like in Twilight’s room in the school. Maybe it’s a common room, I don’t know but we’ll see as we go forward in the season. ;) Honestly though for a first attempt and a rare BG type I ever made before it’s not too shabby but man it could use a lot of work if I have to do this type of backgrounds later in another comic this season.
So I am writing this at 744am….I am tired and off to bed. :) Back to the old grind of the season. I think this comic is the on-set of a 3rd style I have now. You have my single pics with the shading, my classic show style, and then this one which is without the shading in a sense of the single pics and more comic based. I will explain on my plans and what I plan to do on the leaked EPs. It kind of would defeat the purpose of making a pure pre-EP like comic like this since I saw the leaked EPs MONTHS ago and numerous times since December but I have a couple ideas and I will share those in a journal maybe this week. Luckily we got next 4 EPs that had no leakes to them so I am going in blind like others. Oh Snap!
Just as long as I collect taxes from you without grief, I don’t care.
Ok I will pay those bills and then me and Luna are turning into Nightmare Moon palace and soon we rule the Equestria
I don’t wanna speak too soon, but I think so. Just as long as you can pay the bills.
Sure and because of that the wing looks like the connection goes from the shoulder to the middle of her back
What I thought that Background Pony #0D68 was referring to was his tracing of artwork. But, I guess I shouldn’t keep reading up on that.
As for the incorrect wing anatomy, I personally think that if it’s his style of artwork, then it’s not anatomically incorrect.
Well considering how her wing is done in one of the panels i just think it is funny a team member is so stupid and removes the “wrong wing anatomy” tag although it is clear as day it is badly done
@Background Pony #0D68
Hasn’t the needed amount of discipline been enacted upon him already?
They want to make this site Tox/M-M’s safe space :P
i find him to be a good artist
__@Zaknel
He keeps saying he wants to improve.
After so many years of drawing ponies he still has no clue how pony legs work. You too can see he is always missing one joint in every leg. Why does he want to draw the anatomically incorrect way so people keep pointing it out? Not to mention that these heads just don’t work with these bodies.
And bobthedalek doesn’t seem to really know much about anatomy but he draws ponies in so simple standing or sitting poses that it doesn’t really matter. If his ponies use legs as hands they get cartoony, so it’s not as vexing as Tox’s anatomy. Overall, bobthedalek can make his pictures look OK without much of a skill or effort put into them. So all in all, Tox should learn from him.
He’ll only improve if both he wants to and if we stop hammering him about it.
you can make it work, but he should really study some real horse anatomy. Anatomy helps no matter the style
ps: bobthedalek knows what he’s doing with his style. He knows a thing or two about anatomy and posing and how to make the drawings look cartoony, but still be appealing.
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To be honest, I think you have a background fetish at this point lol…
Discuss the arguments and points not the fact someone is an anon or not. You seem to have no arguments to back up your words.
If it’s gonna make you feel better, call me ILovePoniesALot30. Now I’m not anon anymore.
Well….I’m not bobthedalek. He’s fantastic at what he does and I respect that, so don’t drag him into this. I think you’re really putting again too much weight in the value here vs DA again on stuff as I said. IDK where you’re getting that DA doesn’t criticizes cause they do and I’ve seen it. As for the down votes thing…again I am gonna get down votes regardless of what you think but I am not gonna change my methods for making BGs…if I want to make more detailed BGs then that’s my call. So again what may seem meaningless to you may not be so meaningless to me cause I feel like doing it.
Anyway I am done arguing my point on this. I have much better things to do than argue with a BG person that’s trying to bait me to say something could get me in trouble with no consequence to themselves. Good day.
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Look, buddy. I will try to use some metaphore.
To me, what you’re doing is like watching someone trying to plant a flower upside down, uprooted. Then I say - “dude, it’s not the right way” but you say “I’m figuring it out, it’s my style I’m developing”… Get it? The way you draw legs or wings is pretty much like planting uprooted flowers.
A style doesn’t need as much to develop as you think. It’s a matter of weeks if you actually have a clue or listen to people but for some reason you are trying to do it our own way. It’s like going the wrong way on a one-way street.
It’s not only my opinion that backgrounds are irrelevant. It’s a majority’s opinion. That’s how things are done in comic industry. Ever seen Calvin and Hobbes or the Peanuts? Garfield? Dilbert? Political cartoons in newspapers? Backgrounds are plain and simple. You can do a better shot every few panels or so but what you’re doing is an overkill and it’s not just my opinion. It’s just how it’s done. Going against doesn’t lead you to improvement. You’re wasting your effort on meaningless details.
Your “unique methods” aren’t unique. They are just rookie mistakes you’ve carried on for years. You like sports, so imagine a new player consistently ignoring coaches’ advice when it comes to throwing or skating or whatever you want. Certain methods have been developed to make things easier and by being so stubbornly “unique” you are just wasting your effort and time.
The main clash here is your claim that you want to improve and the fact you’re doing everything not to improve at all.
So many people pointed out the thing with your characters’ legs or wings, yet you’re not doing anything to correct it.
I will use bold font to make it clear - You are missing one important joint in pony legs in this style please look up leg tutorials on real horses or mlp characters. The way you’re drawing them is neither realistic nor cartoon The funny thing is you’ve been doing this mistake in your old style too but it was less apparent due to legs being shorter in classic MLP style. Your wings are all wrong too, but it’s more complicated than that… Try to simplify them and dunno, look up some cartoon wings in google???
As for DA vs DB. On DA you have ass-kissers who will praise whatever you draw. Here people actually aren’t afraid to criticise.
As for comics being allegedly unpopular, check out bobthedalek’s stuff.
It’s funny you know your stuff haven’t won over people but you do nothing to change this for the better. So many people get literally 0 downvotes with 100+ upvotes on DB! Even with poor artstyle (bobthedalek is a perfect example - a unique but rather lazy artstyle, plain backgrounds and comics but he almost never gets downvotes. Think about it). You’re actually a rare example of an artist who gets a lot of downvotes and it’s not only because of your reputation. There are dicks out there who don’t get this many downvotes…
Also I did want to add another thing since I noticed that at the bottom. No I’m not trolling…I’m being dead ass serious. As for the critiques or stuff people have…it’s cool I get it people want to see me do different things but there’s something I’ve always said that people need to think about when it comes to anyone, especially me. Every artist has their own way of art and how to do it they like and I do too. Criticism is fine and dandy but ask yourself “is the criticism I am giving gonna help him improve the style he wants and seems to like to do to do or is it me giving criticism in what I think and how I see stuff should be since I have been influenced from?”. There’s a core of people that I like talking to cause they know my style and try and give me advice on stuff with the tools and style I want to have an end goal to see. Sometimes they will give me a correction that I can look at and be like “ok I see what I need to do” and then I can try and push it as best I can into my own style or way for my pony style. So while you and soooooo many people see as me “brushing off” should be seen as me saying “ok I appreciate it but it doesn’t exactly fit what I want to see or it’s not exactly something that I can incorporate in this style (new one or my classic one)”. In a sense I want my own individuality and it’s clear my methods and how I do stuff are far from the norm but that’s actually something people fail to see is what makes me unique so instead of trying to work with what I can do, people want me to change everything cause they may have seen or be influenced by so many other artists and art and see it as “this is how everyone should do it and if someone isn’t doing up to this standard it’s wrong”.
This is why I like the core of people that I go to and trust for advice. This new style is gonna take a while to develop and the expectations I think people are placing are totally unfair in reality….but the people that I trust have see improvement. It’s gonna take time and I barely been at this for 6 months or so fully invested….I did the old style (still doing it) for what 7 years?! 7 years….a style I can do in my sleep and it’s much simpler than what I am attempting now which is far different but I can do more with but I need to get used to it as it’s a bigger learning curve as all poses aren’t ingrained in my mind.
Again this goes back to why I take more stock into deviantart rather than DB where DA is more an actual art site and DB more has a set things on what people like and is strictly pony. I mean it’s obvious….suggestive and sexy sell here. Comics in general usually struggle here and if you focus on my stuff, it’s never done well or won over people here so again…I don’t put value here. Downvotes…everything will get downvotes and DB already has a set rep when it comes to me or my art even in many years past so that’s not gonna change so that was a bad attempt to use that crux on me.
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Again that’s your opinion in the backgrounds. I will do them regardless as I always have and put my effort I want to. As for the character style that’s your opinion….I rather focus on trying to working it out. But again you didn’t read anything about my comics vs single pics thing so I am not gonna bore to type it out again. Also the 5 days this is just a # but I do have a rule of one week then move onto something else….again you don’t know my methods so don’t comment on them if I know how I work….everyone has their own process. Also if you think I am gonna weigh stuff based on how derpibooru sees me…..then that’s kind of stupid actually. I barely take any stock on the weight of DB people say since like you…most are anons and I don’t put weight in anons since all your doing is just hiding behind no name and can call out anyone with someone with no backlash.
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A good friendly tip - focus more on characters than the backgrounds. People look at characters as they are the focus of each panel and they just ignore backgrounds. Making overly detailed backgrounds in comics is actually a rookie mistake.
And your rule to never reuse assets, even from the same comic is just your self-imposed constraint that can be easily solved. You don’t gain anything by doing everything from scratch because 99% of viewers skims through the background. Your backgrounds are also irrelevant because they are boring, man. They are just plain stuff, uninteresting at all. You never use background ponies. You never do any background jokes. Your little muffin shtick doesn’t really make up for everything you lack.
And now with your new character style… there is a jarring clash of styles between your characters and the background. They just don’t work together at all.
As for your “5 days” rule… Make it 7 for comics, you won’t hit “art block” then but you will have more time to polish characters.
On a side note, you don’t get enough views to gauge what turns out better for you right now. The views and favs you get are negligible. You still get a bunch of downvotes on derpibooru. If you were talking about your own feeling, then you are wrong, buddy. Your single pictures have just as many issues as your comics… Recent Rarity at the balance beam - short neck, leg turned the wrong way, you still make this rookie anatomical mistake on legs, forgetting one joint in every leg. There are many tutorials on MLP pony legs or real horse legs - look them up.
There are so many things you’re doing wrong and you don’t even try to fix it, defending yourself with backlogging, “style”, time constraints, pointless background grind…
An important question - are you really trying to improve, or are you just trolling everyone?
It’s been kinda sad to watch your downfall and some people would like to help you out by at least showing you the right way, yet you’re still trying to go further down a manhole.