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It sounds like you're ignoring everything I say, and putting a strawman in it's place. Once again, literally nobody has said that IDW is not officially licensed, just that it's not part of the show canon, and thus not part of it's reality, universe, continuity, or whatever. The Transformers wiki has no real authority, but even it agrees with that much.
From my post, that you obviously neglected to read or put any level of effort into understanding.
"It also says that canon is used as a synonym for official with Transformers, but even ignoring the fact that Transformers is not MLP, that literally doesn’t contradict a single thing I’ve ever said in this comments thread, because I’ve never said that IDW is not technically ’official’ in the sense that it has a license, just that it’s not part of the reality, universe, continuity, and so on that the show is, and thus the information/content inside including stories, the characters/characterization, the setting, and so on, is irrelevant and not part of the show canon."
I clearly acknowledged the part of the article you refer to (and made it clear that nobody other than you is attempting to use canon as a synonym for official here), and I'm saying that nothing whatsoever in that part contradicts a word I've said. I pointed out that second sentence because it's basically reaffirming the definition of the word that me and everyone else here but you is using, not because it's the only part of the article I read.
Here's another little excerpt I found enlightening - "canon from one continuity cannot, in general, be used as evidence to support canon in a different continuity" which not only acknowledges that things such as the show and comics have completely separate canons, it is also basically what I've been arguing when I say that information from the comics has no relevance or authority to the show or anything from the show. It's basically fanfiction in that regard, not in a literal sense, but certainly in it's level of authority on the show's reality.
And no, whether or not something is canon in the sense that people are arguing about has ZERO to do with personal headcanon. It's a matter of fact and what's simply true or not, because canonicity, or what's part of the same reality as the show, is not a matter of opinion. As I said, if you want to take headcanon from IDW, or pick and choose whatever you damn please from it, be my guest, but it doesn't change the fact that IDW is not part of the same canon as the show, by the wiki articles very definition (it literally talks about separate canons having separate continuities/realities and such, and that they should not be conflated with each other), and the definition of just about everyone in this fandom.
IDW is a completely separate reality, with completely separate characters/characterization, stories, and settings, and while that doesn't mean that a headcanon from it is invalid, it has zero authority on the show and is no different in relevance to the show than a headcanon you might take from a fanfiction you liked. So if you attempt to bring up something from the comics as evidence for something in a debate about what's factual in the show/main canon, anyone with half a brain is gonna brush you off and remind you that it's nothing more than your headcanon to do so.
Either way, the IDW comics are not canon, certainly not to the show, end of story. It has it's own separate canon, reality, universe, and continuity, but it's not part of, and is in fact completely separate from the show's canon, reality, universe, and continuity. As the TF wiki article you linked states itself, what's true in the comics separate canon can not in any way shape or form be used as evidence for something in the show canon, because they aren't the same thing. The content in the comics is not part of the show canon, and nothing in the comics is valid or relevant evidence in any sort of debate about something from the show canon.
It sounds like you're ignoring everything I say, and putting a strawman in it's place. Once again, literally nobody has said that IDW is not officially licensed, just that it's not part of the show canon, and thus not part of it's reality, universe, continuity, or whatever. The Transformers wiki has no real authority, but even it agrees with that much.
From my post, that you obviously neglected to read or put any level of effort into understanding.
"It also says that canon is used as a synonym for official with Transformers, but even ignoring the fact that Transformers is not MLP, that literally doesn’t contradict a single thing I’ve ever said in this comments thread, because I’ve never said that IDW is not technically ’official’ in the sense that it has a license, just that it’s not part of the reality, universe, continuity, and so on that the show is, and thus the information/content inside including stories, the characters/characterization, the setting, and so on, is irrelevant and not part of the show canon."
I clearly acknowledged the part of the article you refer to (and made it clear that nobody other than you is attempting to use canon as a synonym for official here), and I'm saying that nothing whatsoever in that part contradicts a word I've said. I pointed out that second sentence because it's basically reaffirming the definition of the word that me and everyone else here but you is using, not because it's the only part of the article I read.
Here's another little excerpt I found enlightening - "canon from one continuity cannot, in general, be used as evidence to support canon in a different continuity" which not only acknowledges that things such as the show and comics have completely separate canons, it is also basically what I've been arguing when I say that information from the comics has no relevance or authority to the show or anything from the show. It's basically fanfiction in that regard, not in a literal sense, but certainly in it's level of authority on the show's reality.
And no, whether or not something is canon in the sense that people are arguing about has ZERO to do with personal headcanon. It's a matter of fact and what's simply true or not, because canonicity, or what's part of the same reality as the show, is not a matter of opinion. As I said, if you want to take headcanon from IDW, or pick and choose whatever you damn please from it, be my guest, but it doesn't change the fact that IDW is not part of the same canon as the show, by the wiki articles very definition (it literally talks about separate canons having separate continuities/realities and such, and that they should not be conflated with each other), and the definition of just about everyone in this fandom.
IDW is a completely separate reality, with completely separate characters/characterization, stories, and settings, and while that doesn't mean that a headcanon from it is invalid, it has zero authority on the show and is no different in relevance to the show than a headcanon you might take from a fanfiction you liked. So if you attempt to bring up something from the comics as evidence for something in a debate about what's factual in the show/main canon, anyone with half a brain is gonna brush you off and remind you that it's nothing more than your headcanon to do so.
Either way, the IDW comics are not canon, certainly not to the show, end of story. It has it's own separate canon, reality, universe, and continuity, but it's not part of, and is in fact completely separate from the show's canon, reality, universe, and continuity. As the TF wiki article you linked states itself, what's true in the comics separate canon can not in any way shape or form be used as evidence for something in the show canon, because they aren't the same thing. The content in the comics is not part of the show canon, and nothing in the comics is valid or relevant evidence in any sort of debate about something from the show canon.