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the 3 bullies got knocked out during the race
That was Fluttershy; she was on the ground when the Rainboom happened. The Dumb Jock Three were still competing in the race when Dash won it with the Rainboom, and everypony there saw it together.
You can say it was small cast syndrome, but it’s still how it was.
Because of the above, Dash had no other pegasus friends. And really, after 5 seasons, she still doesn’t. She certainly knows other pegasi in town, but I can’t recall her being “proper friends” with any.
IIRC the 3 bullies got knocked out during the race. Plus they’re bully trope morons…
Probably because she’s not really friends with many
Season 1 suffered from Small Cast Syndrome a lot more than later seasons; hardly anypony interacted onscreen with other friends around town until S2, so I don’t really think it was a matter of Dash not actually having friends as much as not being written to share screentime with them.
Dash was coaching Fluttershy for her own benefit, not Flutters
If what she really wanted out of the deal was actual cheerleading, Fluttershy… wasn’t exactly to her benefit. Dash brought Yellow Quiet along because she wanted to have a friend she knew she could count on for actual moral support.
obviously, she’d seen Dash do the rainboom already
So had the three meatheads who mocked her for insisting that Dash could pull off “an old mare’s tale” move like the Rainboom. Horses have short memories, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not like it matters, but…
Dash wasn’t patient with Buttershy in season 1
That’s not the interaction I saw in Sonic Rainboom, where Dash kept trying to coach Fluttershy in cheerleading, over and over and over, instead of getting… basically any other Pegasus in town. While everypony else sat there staring dumbfounded when Dash hit her hallelujah, Fluttershy found her inner cheeleader all at once and went nuts, because she was the only one who truly believed in Dash all along.
Dash and Fluttershy could have still been friends pre-Elements of Harmony. They could have been schoolyard pals and hung out together, but drifted apart as they got older. Most likely because Fluttershy just can’t really keep up with Dash’s radical interests. Considering that Gilda was basically catbird Fluttershy when they first met, Gilda was able to adapt to Rainbow Dash’s extreme personality far greater than the softer hearted Flutters. So I imagine that her and Dash are probably best described as old childhood chums that were reacquainted by fate.
This is nothing more than your own personal fanon, Dash wasn’t patient with Buttershy in season 1 remember dragonshy where dash spent the whole time treating fluttershy as an inconvenient thing she had to bring along and constantly belittled her? Or how in pinkie keen dash was going to prank her and pinkie had to talk her out of it since she knew it would hurt her feelings?. All of their interactions as even vague friends started in season 2 which makes them being long time friends a bit hard to swallow. And dash defends everyone’s honor as was shown in Griffonstone, it’s just a part of her character and not a special thing to do with Flurdurshur.
Oh yeah. Not being interested in the EqG-verse, I tend to overlook it. I wouldn’t say that confirms they’re lovers, but it leans so hard on that interpretation that it becomes a stretch to say they aren’t. While still giving Hasbro/DHX a fig leaf of plausible deniability.
♪ I want a Dakimakura for Hearth’s Warming. A Rainbow Dash one, if that’s alright with youuuuu…
Eeyup.
Everybody knows for a fact that Fluttershy prefers the company of anime hug pillows.
Ponies are BIG in places like Russia and Turkey.
In fact, Hasbro at times would advertise new releases in Russia first.
there is no evidence that they even talked to each other after Fluttbutt fell to the ground
Aside from, say, almost all of their onscreen interactions over five+ seasons? Their characterization in episodes like Sonic Rainboom, Dragon Quest, SSCS6K, and Hurricane Fluttershy make it unassailably clear that they have an Old Friends™ relationship which neither of them have with anypony else, and it beggars plausibility to suggest that a line like “It all happened during the race at Flight Camp, where I stood alone against all odds to defend Fluttershy’s honor” was followed by years of not even talking to each other. How many other borderline useless Pegasi has Dash ever been patient with at all, much less with the level of patience she shows to Fluttershy? You can call hogwash on the romance angle all you want– given the fact that onscreen romance between the Mane Six patently is not going to happen, that’s just as valid as any other opinion on the subject, including mine– but to claim that they somehow haven’t been friends since childhood is barking up the wrong Pony who’d like to be a tree.
Oh. You’re right. Must have missed that. Or forgotten since it was so brief.
As for LyraBon relationshipping, there is that Equestria Girls short they made. “All’s Fair in Love and Friendship Games” stars those two and that ending leaves a lot for interpretation. It’s not often that you transition to black with two characters fitting into a tiny heart shape without meaning something. You gotta admit that this atleast makes them strong contenders, right? If not, its fine. Just my opinion is all.
They barely interacted at all, there is no evidence that they even talked to each other after Fluttbutt fell to the ground or that they had interacted beforehand, this whole ‘childhood friend romance’ is complete and utter hogwash.
The thing about LyraBon is, aside from “Slice of Life”, they’re strictly background characters. (Granted, I also sorta like the “are they or aren’t they” aspect of their relationship, but I’m not exactly attached to it.) I think a stronger representation could be made with Cheerilee or Mayor Mare excusing herself from a scene by saying she needs to meet her girlfriend/wife, or Fluttershy’s dads showing up for a visit, or something along those lines: not a major character, but someone who at least has some role in the ongoing narrative.
@RyuSpike
He made a brief mention of Rarijack in the middle of his second paragraph, before dismissing it by pointint out Rarity’s past infatuations with stallions. Which is a fair point, if not exactly insurmountable.
What? No mention of Rarijack? They are like the bickering old couple the the Mane Six. They have that perfect mix of petty arguing and sincere understanding that real couples tend to have. The functional ones atleast.
@TexasUberAlles
And that is where the nail got hit on the head. Basically the biggest thing holding back openly gay relations in children’s media.
This. They should just go one tiny extra step beyond where they are now, and have Lyra and Bonbon kissing in the background from time to time. No focus on it, no change in the show. And it’s MLP:FiM, not Equestria Co-Eds Gone Wild; nothing beyond a single kiss in an occasional episode is ever going to appear in the show for any couple, straight or gay. Just remove the plausible deniability, and let the little girls the show is made for know that they aren’t garbage just because they like other girls. They can be lesbian just like they can be athletic, studious, girly, responsible, shy, silly, etc.
But Flutterdash is a non-starter on so many levels. It would mess up the chemistry of the Mane 6, it doesn’t actually fit either character, they’ve known each other since flight camp and nothing’s happened yet, Dash gets frustrated with Fluttershy too much, etc. As to the others, Appledash would be a toxic disaster; they’re too competitive to be in a relationship. Pinkie and anypony wouldn’t work; she wouldn’t have been subtle about it so if it hasn’t happened (or crashed horribly) by now, Pinkie isn’t interested in it happening with any of them. Rarijack works as far as their personalities go, but Rarity’s demonstrably straight (Trenderhoof). Even if Rarity’s bi, it would work much better with her and Coco. Yet in the end that doesn’t work either, because there hasn’t been the slightest hint of it any time she’s gone to Manehattan. Twidash would work as far as the characters go, but it would still mess up the show’s chemistry. (The CMCs maybe, but 1) they’re too young and it would send entirely the wrong message; and 2) there are three of them so any pairing causes the show serious problems. Apple Bloom going out with Tender Taps could solve the latter problem, but his resemblance to Scootaloo only creates another one just as serious.)
As to possible background pairings, we’ve seen what happens in the spa, so any twincest between Aloe and Lotus is out; there hasn’t been any hint of any “happy endings.” And as cute as Pegacest is, Cloudchaser’s rubbed up against a couple stallions already and zero fillies except Flitter, so it doesn’t really work in the show. They’re sisters, not lovers. So we’re left with Lyrabon, which is basically canon already, just with plausible deniability. And possibly Scratchtavia, though the sharp division of the house suggests they may just be splitting costs. And of course, Rara’s back-up dancers. (Nothing at all was going to happen in the episode; that would’ve been a terribly inappropriate distraction from the episode’s more important message. But it’s plainly obvious. Seeing two of them together holding hooves in the background of a scene in Manehattan some day though…)
see what he has to say about it
According to some of his other tweets– which someone has uploaded here in what I’m sure is an earnest attempt to be helpful and not at all an act of deliberate shitstirring and dramabaiting– he also thinks romance doesn’t really have any place in the show, but goes on to say that since the show has already run with romance plots and subplots, he thinks they should keep running with that and just make some of those romances non-hetero. All in all it’s nowhere near the spittle-flecked tirade in support of intrusive militant queerorism that some people are making it out to be.
@TexasUberAlles
Yes, finally! After all the drama and demonization, people are putting forth the obvious approach. I sorta want someone to copypaste these comments to Whitley and see what he has to say about it.
1)Put a bunch of guy/girl pairings in any combination in the background, possibly with occasional speaking roles, out and about doing fun stuff and going out on dates. Are they friends? Are they couples? The viewer can think whatever they want, so you’re not moralizing to the audience and keeping them happy all at the same time. Networks and governments and newspapers don’t get on your case because you’re not technically taking any stance on the issue.
2)Don’t portray romantic relationships between the main cast, preferably not at all. This keeps your show on track (“Friendship is Magic”) and makes both shippers and little kids happy by leaving open any possibilities.
The first solution to any problem is to sit down and think about it for five minutes. By the clock. Maybe you won’t come up with anything brilliant, but you’ll do better than if you give up before you even start.
I honestly think that if it weren’t for the whole “trying to sell the show in overseas markets run by scumbag governments” millstone around the franchise’s neck, Hasbro would have just had Lyrabon be an openly homo couple by now and not given it any more special attention than the hetero couples we’ve seen.
I still think any kind of romance shouldn’t be in the foreground for very long and the Mane Six abso-tootly shouldn’t have any kind of ongoing relationship other than “♪ Friiieeennndddsss ♪”, but every show everywhere would be made better by having hetero/homo/bi/poly relationships presented as just another thing in the background without any kind of A Very Special Episode™ weight attached.
Agreed.