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Some things really confound me. This here is doubly confounding.
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I agree with you man. I don’t care if someone is man, woman, bi or whatever gender fluidity bullshit they say, but there is one slight problem with the whole “pick your gender”, namely stately institutions such as prisons and such. Now let me give you an example, in the SJW’s perfect world, you could say you identify as male or female and you’d be classed as such. Do these people not see the glaring loophole this creates?
Now, let’s take a practical example: A male rapeist who is basicly like those smarties in fluffy comics, raping everything between women, pregnant women, foals, you name it. Anyways, one of those types says “I identify as female”. Then the state would have to send him to a female prison. The SJW can argue whatever they want, this is not a debate, once a state rule is gaveled through, it is in motion, and you can’t stop it either, because in the OTHER SJW laws, if you refused his claim, he can and will sue you for prejudice and being sexist, bigots, discriminatory, you name it. So not only would you have to send him to a female prison where he would rape every woman in there, even those who maybe are only in for speeding with a 3 week sentence, you would be sued for not doing so, do you see where I am going with this? There has to be a limit.
If you see yourself as a woman with a 3 foot beard, a voice as deep as the ocean and a hard-on the size of the empire state building, that’s fine, but keep it to yourself, on paper you will be a man. Not because they discriminate you, not because they don’t believe you, but because they have to to be able to keep an order in this world. SJW’s do not bellong in this world unfortunately, because gender is given to you by a doctor by birth, this is not up for debate. If it is, then I would say the entire world has had a serious stroke and is not recouperating as it should. Anyone with half a brain could see that their bullshit would not work.
Also, apparently I am sexist for not liking ghostbusters, but I am not redeemed either for liking Rey in Star Wars episode 7 or the fact that the next Doctor Who is a woman? How does that work? Is taste and nostalgia bigotry? Also, to all those feminists who says shit about men just because we are men, you are literally doing to us what you say we are doing to you but aren’t actually doing. To all black people who says “Kill all white people.” You are idiot racists. Only way you are not sexists/racists is if you literally have no gender/race. It works both ways, which for you is quite unfortunate, because if your laws would pass, guess who’d go to jail: You for saying you wanna murder a race/gender or me for having a black girlfriend who I love more than anything in the world. Your move. :P
Whatever, man.
Pretty much this. If you’re not reasonable enough to concede that today’s humanity is more civil and reasonable than humanity in 1400 or 400, then you’re really not going to concede to anything, and that was my real central point.
I don’t feel like arguing about it any more. Neither of us are going to see the other side of the debate any time soon.
It’s best to just let it die.
Boy, I sure hope you didn’t watch a particular press conference today then!
>Major powers don’t go to war with each other any more. We don’t burn entire cities.
only if it’s their own!
Yes, people do, but it’s moved on to crime - hate crime - which is even more harshly punished in most first world countries. It used to be the major powers that would do it by law. Now it’s poor countries that are back a thousand years, and criminals.
Far from perfect, we are, yes, but if you think we aren’t improving, then this can only be - I don’t mean this too harshly but in the literal sense - a lack of awareness of what the world really used to be like.
There was racial slavery. Races of people were treated, by law, as subhuman. People went to war over pride and national fervor.
We don’t do racial slavery. Blacks and women and gays get equal protection under the law - even if you want to argue they don’t, you can’t dispute that the legislation says they do, and it used to not.
We don’t go to war for the glory of empire. We do it when we think other nations are already trying to kill us.
Major powers don’t go to war with each other any more. We don’t burn entire cities.
We have come a long way from centuries ago, never mind millennia, where opposing those in power would get you put to death, not political support.
Maybe the third world is still like this, and I do think the third world will always exist.
But we left them behind. If those people refuse to be civil, refuse to work together despite their differences, refuse to stop killing each other for stupid reasons - then just like we left them behind when we landed on the moon or built the space station, they will again be left in our dust as we take to the stars, and we will remember their mistakes so we will never live like they did, but we will forget them.
If they refuse to ascend with us, then let them be left behind. If they refuse to rise to their better being and fulfill their potential, then our destiny as a species has no room for them to come with us as we spread to the stars and take our place in the universe.
That’s my thought on the future of humanity. The best will rise, the bad will be forgotten and left behind. We won’t have to judge them, their lack of cooperation and peace will undo themselves, and their actions will be their own judgement. Their desire for bloodshed will be their fate they deliver to each other, while visions of peace and prosperity will become ours, as we deliver it to each other.
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“You’re not the blah blah blah that I am! Therefore, blah blah blah, current war!”
We won’t have that world. We won’t. But that doesn’t mean I can’t dream we could.
You’re sounding even more ideal than I was earlier.
Dude, we, as the human race, are already murdering people who are attracted to different kinds of people. We are. Even if you and I aren’t, people still are. And they’ll keep doing it, because people are fucking stupid. They’ll do it for race, for sex, for nationality, for creed, for orientation, for age, for eye color and hair color, for height and for weight, for the measure of one’s IQ, for “honor”, for “vengeance”, for fucking “revengeance”; we invent reasons to kill each other every single day!
There’s nothing wrong with struggling towards the dream that we’ll all be equal and we should continue that fight until we ourselves are dead, but that doesn’t change the fact that most minds still don’t change.
I’m being a defeatist, I know that; I get it. But that’s the way our world goes. What do you want me to say? It’ll all be fine? It’ll all be okay? Because it won’t. One of these days, unless one of the most amazing revolutions this side of EVER changes things and the entire world just suddenly “gets along”, we’re going to destroy ourselves, and no, I don’t just mean in nuclear fire. There’s lots of ways we’re already trying to annihilate ourselves and we’re succeeding rapidly.
I mean, will the world ever come to a point where my previously mentioned ideal could possibly be a reality? It involves all of the following getting along and burying the hatchet:
Perfection is not something you can reach, but it is something to always strive for, and that you can get closer to forever.
The fact that we’re not in a horrible dystopia where speaking against the government will get you hanged, nor are we murdering people who are attracted to different kinds of people than we are - this means we have gotten better, so it proves we can, and already have.
We just need to keep doing that and not regress.
Don’t get me wrong, yo. I’m talking about prejudice under the circumstances of ordinary people. Things more along the lines of, again, “not being a dick”.
Of course it’s acceptable for us to damn someone for performing actions of great cruelty. I mean, drowning kittens for fun? Outside of other people who also do that, who wouldn’t damn them for doing that? Besides, there are already animal cruelty laws in place to damn people for that; it’s a moot point.
Besides, what I think’s going on is while we’re both reading the same book here, we’re not on the same page. I did specify earlier that my ideals would only function in “a perfect world”. As we all know, perfection, as it applies to the concept of morality… it just doesn’t exist. Even if somebody has what they think is a “great” idea, someone somewhere else will brand it as “evil”. The reverse also applies.
I’m more than aware that the idea of a world where everything is sunshine and rainbows, where everyone’s smiling and getting along; yeah, it just won’t become a reality. Ever. I originally made this image and started commenting on it as a way to vent my frustration towards the inherent idiocy of prejudice itself.
It’s not that I think everyone will all just forgive, forget, and get along one day… I just really wish they would.
“…for reasons pertaining to their differences comparing to yourself.”
What if they like drowning kittens for fun? Or belong to the National German Socialist party?
Also the rule doesn’t cover things like someone wanting to murder someone else for stealing their pen.
Point is, creating a system of rules whereby everyone can get along is not at all an easy “Oh, I could make this in three seconds!” sort of deal. It’s sociology, psychology, biology, history, theology, and mostly political science. You won’t achieve the holy grail of political science in two seconds.
That takes at least four minutes.
Lol, seriously, though, you could spend many years with a group of experts and still get a system that fails epicly.
I think what you’re really trying to say, though, is a lot of problems today could be solved with people just letting go of prejudice, which is true.
Personally, I wish people would be more reasonable, less biased, and simply put, less wrong.
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My definition of “not being a dick” is simple and, I’d like to think, pretty universal (in an impossibly perfect world, anyway):
“Don’t hold prejudice against another for reasons pertaining to their differences comparing to yourself.”
Making jokes, that’s one thing.
Actually hating them simply because they’re not the same as you, regardless as to how they’re different… that’s just fucking stupid.
People generally do have that, it’s just definitions of “being a dick” differ.
This is a true.
@Background Pony #222D
Personally, I’d like to see a world where the one and only mantra needed is, “Don’t be a dick.” But that’s just me.
Whether you’re male, female, straight, gay, bi, trans, black, white, orange, turquoise, Christian, Hindi, a conservative, a liberal, a socialist, a neo-conservative socialist liberal; whether you’re whatever, just don’t be a dick.
But it’s a matter of seeing them as feminists. Or “Men’s Rights Activists”. Or socialists or communists or conservative or liberal.
They’re just bigots. Whatever they preach, whatever they claim to believe in, whatever cause they declare they support, they’re just bigots. And bigots are all equally worthy of derision. Whether they’re bigots attacking people on the internet or decrying the evils of television or calling for the burning of literature, or destroying ‘obscene’ works of art. They are all just varying flavors of bigotry.
I like the kind of feminism that doesn’t view men watching my little pony as a problem, simple as that.
I like Faust feminsim, I like feminism that genuinely values equality and holds EVERYONE to the same standards.
I’ve been following anti brony feminists and have never once seen them produce anything good
You know, like basically everyone who spends hours upon hours on youtube whining about SJWs. Or every teenager who posts edgy angry crap on facebook about how ‘morally upstanding’ and ‘progressive’ they are. They’re all the same breed of garbage.
“Feminism” isn’t evil. “Men’s rights” isn’t evil. “Socialism” isn’t evil. “Political correctness” isn’t evil. There’s a whole lot of issues out there that really actually need solving. You shouldn’t be angry at them. You shouldn’t paint them all in broad strokes.
BIGOTS are the enemy, regardless of their political leanings, ideologies, or supposed intentions. Anyone who twists the truth, misrepresents the facts, or just outright lies to tell you to be angry about someone else doing something they don’t approve of is just a selfish sack of shit. I mean, in my personal opinion and stuff.
“And in the last days, even the very stars shall fall from the heavens…” XD
No, really though, that’s pretty sad.
And that trope of all things… Oh yes, people love saving your life and think you’re a huge motivating cause to fight for - that’s such terrible oppression…
You really have to put on the spin doctoring to interpret that one negatively. People will literally fight and die for you and you STILL find a way to call that “oppression”… Bravo. Bravo. You’re doing a better job grasping at straws than 7-day creationists.
They fired the first shot, BUT WE SHALL FINISH THE WAR WITH THEIR EXTERMINATION!!!!
@Cirrus Light
Even worse, don’t forget Lauren Herself was involved! And shut down any who were offended by it.
But then she’s been a colossal shitlord for awhile now. Seems Brave made her go full kool-aid
It’s really just maddening that some people are so insane/illogical, and claim some sort of moral high ground while they go around vindictively attacking whoever they can for any perceived injustice. They’re horrible. I don’t want anyone hurt, but they do use actual terrorism tactics and that pretty much makes them terrorists, and I legitimately think something - I’m not quite sure what - needs to be done to prevent this mob harassment. Take for instance the dentist that shot a lion, or the European Space Agency engineer who I think actually lost his freaking dream job as an aerospace engineer because he had the audacity to wear the shirt his girlfriend gave him.
These people are poisonous, and unlike the people who’s lives they actually ruin, they deserve whatever backlash they get for ruining peoples’ lives from their cushy spoiled thrones. Never in human history has any group of humans been more pampered and spoiled as they, and they continue to cry out at being terribly “oppressed.” It’s sick, and their double standards are nothing short of mental-illness levels of cognitive dissonance.
I think I’ll close my rant with this:
You found some idiots on social media, one person upset that the brony fandom is mostly male, and one neck beard joke with Rainbow Dash(which doesn’t have much to do with feminism.)
I mean, there a tons more anti-feminist pony art than there is pro-feminist pony art. So what’s the point?
Life just ain’t fair, yo. All I wanted to do was buy a bag of peaches, but then I get besieged by battalion of angry women telling me I’m a rapist without ever even thinking about who I am.
ALL I WANTED WAS A FUCKING BAG OF PEACHES!
I think I have a new must-follow Tumblr user this time.