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So Gab.ai recently purged lolicon from their platform…  
Now before you cry CENSORSHIP. First of all, yes, it is censorship, and I’m on the fence about this due to the fictional nature of the contents. But look at it this way, lolicon is CRIMINALIZED in many parts of the world, and as a business that aspires to operate on the international market, they simply couldn’t and wouldn’t fight tooth to nail over the laws of various countries. Nor do they have the resource to do so.
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@Lord Seraph  
I saw that.
 
If it wasn’t for the fact the owner screamed to the heavens in a “LOOK AT ME!” moment calling it demonic garbage
 
If feel more he’s pushing his moralizing onto his platform. So he just comes across more like Ole Jack.
 
His words paint it in a narrative to gain support, like with most from that Area of the country.  
“Real simple: we don’t welcome that garbage here. Take it to Mastodon if you want to share cartoons depicting the abuse, nudity, and sexual fetishization of children, which is illegal in many countries. Debate the legal grey area in the US all you want, but to us 18 USC 1466A is pretty clear and I think 99% of people would agree with us. Loli is cancer and demonic. “
 
We’ve seen in some case people pimping their children and having them dance on stages in drag, so it feels hypocrical he attacks art where there is no victim while that those incidences go on.
 
It’s like when people attack Furries for drawing porn saying it’s Bestiality; It’s not.
 
I’ve also seen of late People decrying depictions in the Japanese art style, but will in their words “Abuse and fetishizing” young female characters from western shows and games.
 
Edit: Forgot I was gonna post Louis Le Vou’s video on it  
He has a good take on it.
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@Cyborg_pony  
Like it or not. Being accused of “distributing CP” carries far more weight than being accused of “hate speech”. I guess he’s trying to avoid a greater PR nightmare. They are a business after all. And CP is universally seen as a demoralizing thing, for the right reasons. hough if only society can make a definitive split between the real stuff and the fictional. Personally I do not think anything completely within the realm of fiction should be censored to adults. Mind you, lolicon ain’t my cup of tea. I personally find the stuff…. rather sick.
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@Lord Seraph  
It’s the manner he went about it, that is more the problem. It’s like his moment had come.
 
It shows he isn’t really for free speech and will ban something if his deems it obscene.
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@Cyborg_pony  
It’s like the saying goes, “Either everything is okay, or nothing is”.  
You can’t say you’re for free speech and then censor something out of moral reasons, if he said “Look, I get it, but it’s illegal in basically half the countries our servers are in”, then that would’ve been fine.
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@Deserter  
That was actualy brought up in a comment.
 
I can’t say it better myself so here is the full:
 
If Torba had said exactly what he’s been saying for the past 2 years, which is along the lines of “It’s a legal grey area and we don’t want to risk it, especially since we are being targeted by everyone looking for an excuse to take us down”, nothing would have happened.
But then he decided to personally attack his detractors and, more importantly, started using the same “freedom of association” defense that everyone who banned/deplatformed them or their users used. The second you pull that defense, you lose the right to complain when anybody else censors you. ESPECIALLY if you are the self proclaimed “Home Of Free Speech Online”.
He was willing to fight to the bitter end to defend a photograph of a dead woman on the hood of a car, complete with unflattering caption, and only gave in when he was threatened with his whole site being shut down. Why the extreme tone shift here? It’s almost as if, just like the left, they only support free speech when it’s speech they support… And that’s telling.
 
Like mentioned, he lost his ability to say he’s being censored, by the way he acted.
 
He essentially made himself a hypocrite, and I wouldn’t be surprised how many using Gab are asking “Well, what’s next?”
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@Cyborg_pony
It’s like the saying goes, “Either everything is okay, or nothing is”.
You can’t say you’re for free speech and then censor something out of moral reasons, if he said “Look, I get it, but it’s illegal in basically half the countries our servers are in”, then that would’ve been fine.
 
Then people would accuse them of being covertly apologetic towards CP. I imagine they had to come up with something quick and make a bold statement that they thought would convince they disavow such things.
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@Ainz Ooal Gown  
And he’s only going to get so much praise from people who already hate anime.
 
Within a few days, he’ll be called a “Muh Nazi” and those that might have stood up for him now have been scorned and or think they’re be next on his list.
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@Cyborg_pony  
The fact that they made what is considered one of the greatest games of all time was only going to protect them for so long. After all, they committed the cardinal sin of only having white people in their adaption of a world that only contains white people.
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@Scrabbleman  
Nichegamer has been pretty good, They have a good piece on this stupidity
 
But you’re right; A lot of the known ones ham-fist their political views into anything. Entertainment can’t be entertainment anymore. It has to push a message, and they must approve of it.
 
Much like with the Cruchyroll garbage anime. They spoke more about “diversity” then the show, seeing it’s just a Bootleg little witch Academia webcomic made into a animated cartoon, and when you look into the group associated with it (WIA: Women in Animation) have essentially taken money from women trying to get into animation only to benefit a select few; And are then told to pretty much fuck off when questioning the “high council” for why they’re not receiving any help that they paid a premium for.
 
It’s all slimy nepotism. The journos will praise, and may doop others into buying into this Ponzi scheme. Using anything as a shield against what they’re doing. We all know the slurs.
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Mark Waid’s ex-business partner drops nuke on his credibility
 
This is some pretty devastating info for Waid. Declares himself the defender of women and minorities, and what’s he do? Bully them and anyone else in his way.
 
He’s has a history of doing what he did to Anarchic press. He’s toast and so many will be vindicated. There’s no way a jury will find this guy innocent. I say they should have her Testify to Waid’s “character”.
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@Cyborg_pony  
Just one simple question, that most would have taken as a joke.
 
Saved this line of comments, don’t remember why, but you can see the deterioration to not having a real point beyond “Lap it up, you swine.”
 
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It’s beautiful. It’s nice to see SJWs who want to support women blindly come to an agreement with a business that sees an opportunity to make shitloads of money for low effort.
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@PonyPon  
Urgh, it seems people misunderstood what the difference between mobile, PC and console is.
 
It’s not about the specs or the software. Hell, I barely give a shit about either when choosing a platform. The biggest difference between these platforms is gameplay.
 
It’s like playing an FPS in the three platforms. They all have the same weapons, design and scenarios but each are controlled differently. A PC would be best in playing FPS because of the mouse and keyboard being separate things, one for moving and the other for shooting. A controller on a console makes it more difficult due to the limited buttons, since you give up 4 fingers to hold the controller itself. And let’s not fucking get into mobile, where the controls take up the fucking screen.
 
Some games work in all platforms. Most however don’t. Diablo, funnily enough, can have working controls in mobile, but mobile is also not the main target audience. Nobody fucking plays these story-based games on mobile. Mobile games are designed with fast-paced, short-term gameplay in mind. 5-10 minutes per play on average.
 
God, you’d think a bunch of developers know this.
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