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Excerpt from the Journal of Star Swirl the Bearded:
Princess Luna, like her sister, is an alicorn and has achieved literal demigod status; and also like her sister, her strength and speed are beyond that of mortals, and she has a mind to match. (The exact method of obtaining this power remains a mystery to me, as the sisters refuse to share it.)
Lunas longevity has allowed her to master multiple disciplines of war and she is both an accomplished mage and a peerless warrior. In the art of magic, I note that she specializes in force and energy manipulation, illusion, and cold magics. And while her talent for the arcane is arguably second to her sister, any mage would be wise to respect and fear her ability. However, it is obvious her true skills are those of physical combat. She is competent with every martial form commonly known in Equestria and many that are far more exotic. Most favored by her is a massive great-sword she has dubbed Eclipse, that she claims to have been forged from the very shadows of the dark side of the moon. (I am unable to verify this myself, but the metal is unlike anything familiar to me.)
However, at this point, I feel I must express a concern; if not publicly, then at least in the privacy of this journal. Ive observed that Luna feels like the less favored of her and her sister, and significantly so. And possibly with good reason; Many Equestrians are intimidated the severity of her presence. The realm of night and dreams is undeniably under Lunas ward and yet they irrationally fear the dark. While Luna has yet remained a steadfast defender of her people, their apparent lack of gratitude has instilled her with a dark and sullen demeanor, which only makes matters worse. I fear she may even one day turn upon the citizens of Equestria as well as her sister. But to what end I can only guess
Princess Luna, like her sister, is an alicorn and has achieved literal demigod status; and also like her sister, her strength and speed are beyond that of mortals, and she has a mind to match. (The exact method of obtaining this power remains a mystery to me, as the sisters refuse to share it.)
Lunas longevity has allowed her to master multiple disciplines of war and she is both an accomplished mage and a peerless warrior. In the art of magic, I note that she specializes in force and energy manipulation, illusion, and cold magics. And while her talent for the arcane is arguably second to her sister, any mage would be wise to respect and fear her ability. However, it is obvious her true skills are those of physical combat. She is competent with every martial form commonly known in Equestria and many that are far more exotic. Most favored by her is a massive great-sword she has dubbed Eclipse, that she claims to have been forged from the very shadows of the dark side of the moon. (I am unable to verify this myself, but the metal is unlike anything familiar to me.)
However, at this point, I feel I must express a concern; if not publicly, then at least in the privacy of this journal. Ive observed that Luna feels like the less favored of her and her sister, and significantly so. And possibly with good reason; Many Equestrians are intimidated the severity of her presence. The realm of night and dreams is undeniably under Lunas ward and yet they irrationally fear the dark. While Luna has yet remained a steadfast defender of her people, their apparent lack of gratitude has instilled her with a dark and sullen demeanor, which only makes matters worse. I fear she may even one day turn upon the citizens of Equestria as well as her sister. But to what end I can only guess
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Or just cave their heads in with your bare hands. My drabonborn is a wizard with 20 of strength.
What if they fought my max-leveled orc Dragonborn? Or Doomguy? Or my 34 level Bhaalspawn?
Sorry for the late reply:
I’m not talking about consequences, I’m talking about people who use “that’s offensive” or “that offends me” as if it already made up an argument.
No, the fact that someone finds what I say offensive does not mean that what I said is wrong because said person finds it offensive.
Since you’ve brought up consequences, when I didn’t, let’s make one point clear:
The right to free speech is the right to offend.
Meaning there will be no legal consequences to offending someone.
(the kind of consequence that actually matters)
Words on the internet cannot physically hurt anyone, “cyber violence” doesn’t exist unless we can physically teleport into the cybernet. (this’ll take at least another 100 or 200 years at best and 500 at worst)
You can always walk about from words on the internet, or let’s just re-purpose the MST3K Mantra (“It’s just a show; I should really just relax.”) for internet use
how about “S/he doesn’t know me, I shouldn’t care this much.”
@Ambris
Also known as “Big Good” according to TV Tropes. ;P
That is often said but never believed. Most people who say “any consequences of my behavior are automatically the fault of others” try to have it work both ways, claiming that anyone thay bother is in fact offended for no reason because words are harmless even when they’re not, but will still claim that anyone that bothers them is objectively “a dick” regardless of why.
The truth is, these things don’t happen randomly for no reason, and aren’t impossible to mitigate or avoid.
Offense is always taken and never given.
At the same time, of course, no one needs to be a dick, right?
I hesitate to join this “argument”, but there’s a bit of difference between “not mincing words” and “having zero verbal filter”.
Thanks very much for the answer.
To get a good perspective on how dangerous the princesses are, think of a difficult final boss battle in an RPG. To defeat that boss, you require a whole team of extremely powerful and skilled characters (i.e. high level), decked out in the best equipment you can get, and executing a solid well planned strategy, and only then do you have a chance at defeating that boss; It’s not even guaranteed.
That’s Luna and Celestia. They’re effectively final bosses, just on the side of the good guys. They are, intentionally, kind of OP.
>I do wonder just how devastating even an anthro Luna or Celly could be if they went all-out on a battlefield.
With or without magic? Without they’d just be extremely capable generals who could defend themselves against any singular enemy or assassin.
With… well, at minimum their scouts would have perfect sight during any time of day and enemies would constantly have glare in their eyes while their own troops would have none. At maximum, it’s not fair to call a glassed, baked several meters deep wasteland bathed in solar fire “battlefield”, and nor it is fair to call a frozen, eternally shrouded in night expanse where nothing will grow “scorched earth”.
Yes. People usually don’t know just how brutal hand to hand combat in the Middle Ages could be. Or how skilled professional fighters could get. I’ve read some accounts of the archaeology done at the Wisby/Visby battlefield, and some of those bodies display horrifying injuries.
Given that the Princesses are usually seen as being MUCH stronger and tougher than normal ponies, as well as (at the very least) incredibly long-lived, I do wonder just how devastating even an anthro Luna or Celly could be if they went all-out on a battlefield.
P.S. You misspelt the sword inscription as “ecl_pi_se”.
The endurance thing depends on whether it’s a duel for the show (required), duel for the kill (not required - if it’s not over in half a minute, it’ll devolve into grappling) or full-on combat (required, but not going to be fought alone, real life isn’t a RPG with under half a dozen characters per skirmish and battles consisting of series of skirmishes).
Great representation of how actual combat would go are Age of Chivalry and Chivalry: Medieval Warfare. Try having a duel in the middle of TO in there, I dare you. What you’ll get is a sword in the back or an arrow in the head, not a fair duel. In there, skill and technique matter a lot less than purely physical endurance and might, and camaraderie. Cover your battle-brother and they will cover you. And none can defend from eight swords on eight sides.
Eh, fuck it. Do as you please. Plus, It’s not problem if you were offended because I don’t mince my words.
Okay, now your use of the term “permanent period” is honestly just kind of offensive, or at least tactless and crude. That, and your obvious lack of research into any kind of martial melee combat (paired with your apparent implication that you know what you’re talking about) has demonstrated a complete lack of credibility on your part.
I was prepared to simply offer an agreement to disagree, but now I sincerely doubt you possess the maturity to appreciate it. I won’t be responding to you again, child.
Still, I don’t think Luna makes for a good melee fighter. Being on a permanent period doesn’t make you good with a sword. Plus, you are wrong. Physical might ends fights before they even start. Dance around all you want, it will do nothing when somebody goes straight for the face and doesn’t give a crap about fighting fair.
Compared to the baseline at which I draw characters, it does show muscle. Keep mind that I tend to emphasize muscle-TONE over muscle-MASS. Realistically, being a good warrior is about skill and technique and endurance much more than raw physical might–Don’t believe everything RPGs tell ya.
Furthermore, if you’re talking about the show–that’s a terrible basis to work with. Considering 90% of the population has exactly the same body type, including Applejack who is implied to be immensely strong and Fluttershy who is implied to be relatively delicate, I think such a basis for anthro body types and classes is largely useless.
I base their classes and body-types more on the character’s demeanor, personality, and interests, than anything else.
I’m talking about her show design. Plus your design doesn’t really show muscle. So, you kinda shot yourself there.
Hrm, you’re right on all accounts. The sword could have been designed better.
@Background Pony #FCA2
Not sure what you mean. If I wanted to make Luna an agile type, I would have drawn her significantly smaller and more petite. As is, while she’s no Incredible Hulk, but she’s more muscular and broader shouldered, like I draw most of my warrior girls.
If you want a different Luna, turn her into an assassin or archer. Look at her body type, she is far too thin and frail for a melee fighter and she looks more set up for agility and mobility. If you want a melee, darkness themed character, then look no further than Sombra. He is a Celestia-sized monster of a stallion and he certainly looks the part.
To paraphrase one Harry Dresden, “They hear ‘wizard’ and think that I’m going to stand on the sidelines shouting ‘Magic Missile’ the whole time. For some reason, it never occurs to them that I might just run up and punch them in the face.”
There certainly are, but not nearly enough I believe.
I’m the guy who posted the earlier entry about the runes, and now that I think about it the runes could also be a reference to both Luna and her sister. ‘Horse’ and ‘Fire’ could refer to Celestia and ‘Ice’ ‘Sun’ ’Horse could mean Luna. The moon can be described as a ’icy sun if we want to get all metaphorical about it.
Annd the art is A____