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So according to this person’s headcanon, Luna transformed into Nightmare Moon because she was…autistic?
#halfjoking
Oh, don’t think I care either. If you hadn’t given up soon, I would’ve.
I’ll still pretend I “won” though
I’ll be frank: I don’t have the time or the care to continue arguing about this nonsense with you.
If you do actually care about this all, go PM Carcer. He can spell out for you much more eloquently what a SJW is and how noxious they are.
“Social Justice Warrior. A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation.”
“derogatory term for people who are basically overly in defense of whatever the popular beliefs portray as the greater victim of discrimination (usually SJWs would be defending women, african americans, homosexuals, etc).”
“Social justice warrior, someone who fights for the principles of human equality and solidarity.”
Those are the definitions of SJW on urban dictionary. All three are different from each other and different from your definition. And that’s because like the word “hipster” it means completely different things to different people. When you call someone a SJW, UD person #1 thinks you’re calling someone an attention whore, #2 thinks you’re trying to say someone who is trying to help people but got their data from popular culture, and #3 thinks it’s a complement. So that’s why I wanted you to say what you’re trying to argue before you started arguing it.
Secondly, “die cis scum” is a meme. It has always been a joke. It’s like calling someone a faggot on 4chan. If people using memes is your proof that they’re bad people, that’s a bad sign. And just bringing up pinkiepony is massive flamebait, and is hated enough to be more or less the Derpibooru version of Godwin’s Law.
And @Turkeynomster, Animal Farm wasn’t particularly funny. Satire is in general not funny to the people it’s making fun of, whether that be Stalin, most people who’ve been portrayed on South Park, or in this case people who use the SJW stereotype.
The SJWs were the first ones to call themselves SJWs, but now most don’t call themselves openly as such, because the word has become unpopular and a sure way to become hated by everyone.
As for the SJWs being satirical, I can assure you, the people getting those hate messages do not find them funny. If satire doesn’t make you laugh and instead makes you less happy, what kind of shitty satire is that?
Claiming a logical fallacy without pointing out said logical fallacy is kind of a cheap move. So is dropping the “burden of proof” malarkey into it.
As for what you asked for, have fun reading through this and then tell me “it’s satire”. Or you could always just check the archive of pinkiepony’s blog.
I’m not even sure where the argument is going. If people do X thing and the definition of Y is “doing X thing”, then those people get labeled as Y; IMO it’s a pretty simple concept.
“Moving the goalposts is an informal logical fallacy in which previously agreed upon standards for deciding an argument are arbitrarily changed once they have been met. This is usually done by the “losing” side of an argument in a desperate bid to save face. If the goalposts are moved far enough, then the standards can eventually evolve into something that cannot be met no matter what. Usually such a tactic is spotted quickly.”
I know I’m making you do quite a bit of research, but the burden of proof isn’t on me, so could you please show me someone on tumblr saying “straight people need to die” and clearly not using it as satire of what people think SJWs are? Because we both need to agree on what Social Justice Warriors are (both what you define them as, and what they are generally defined as) and if they even exist before continuing.
Pointing “shit’s bad” out, great, that’s something SJWs do. But what they also do, and what defines them as SJWs is they go beyond that and attack the people that don’t agree with them or their methods.
“Gays have it bad and using them as the butt of a joke is wrong” - OK
“Gays have it bad and straight people are trash and need to die” - Not OK
When I find evidence of the latter type of behavior, I’ll label that person a SJW.
“almost all” “I imagine” “there’s probably been some” “but I’m pretty sure most people” “SJWs tend to”
It really doesn’t matter how much information you can find about this person in particular. It never mattered to my point. The point is, there is absolutely nothing that anyone can do that makes them definitely a SJW, or definitely not a SJW, because it’s not a thing that exists. It’s a category people put other people in when they want to dismiss what they’re saying. And when you use blanket categories like that, you need to make a ton of assumptions. Because if you didn’t, you’d know that’s not how people work. There are plenty of people out there that are using the same logic you do that would see you are a brony, and take this to mean you are probably a furry, a clopper, a pedophile, and/or a homosexual.
Fighting assumptions, fighting stereotypes, pointing them out to the people who aren’t evil or racist but just can’t realize they’re being prejudice because they’ve learned that’s how society and humanity works- that’s what those “social justice warriors” do.
I can tell you she’s not a SJW (under my definition, at least), though she clearly identifies as one.
She’s also lesbian, lives in the UK, healthy, doing what counts as 11th grade, doesn’t have academic problems, spends about 2 hours on Tumblr a day, most of it textless and tagless reblogs of social justice issues, SJWs and anti-brony blogs and is doing a lot of catch up on the fandoms SJWs tend to like.
Then let’s try someone else!
This is the OP’s tumblr. Again, tell me their age, if they volunteer, if they go to class, and if they’re a good person.
http://kirbysuperiorstar.tumblr.com/archive
Just by that I can tell you I can’t tell shit about you; other than that you don’t use Tumblr much at all.
You can’t pretend that one can gleam the same information from someone that hits 100 posts a day as you can from someone that hasn’t made 20 posts in 5 months.
http://kirbysuperiorstar.tumblr.com/
Here’s my tumblr. How old am I? Do I volunteer? Am I a good person? Do I go to class? Because if you aren’t psychic, then maybe you should think about not insulting people based on your own assumptions and stereotypes of them.
I don’t go to reddit so I don’t know their definitions for terms.
As for its application, at least by me, I actually do look up the person saying things and almost all of them are teens or early 20s that spend 12 hours a day (at least) posting on tumblr, never mentioning any sort of actual social work or volunteering. I imagine the other 12 hours involve sleeping and classes.
Sure, there’s probably been some actual “good person” that’s been called a SJW, but I’m pretty sure most people that actually care about social justice have figured out by now that behaviors people label as “SJW-like” just damage their cause.
And that’s my question. When I see the phrase “social justice warrior” it’s always used to describe some based on a single quote or action, ie “social justice warriors found thus-and-such offensive…” and how do you know that someone is unproductive, arrogant, aggressive, and hateful based on their opinion? Or do you just assume it’s true? And I thought the stereotype reddit created about femi- sorry, “social justice warriors”, was that they weren’t hateful enough and ruined everyone’s fun by pointing out when other people were hateful?
The type of people we call SJWs are the sort defined by being loud and aggressive about social justice issues, but don’t do anything productive about it, or worse, just use it as an excuse to spew hate.
If they actually did any social work, then they wouldn’t be SJWs. Though they’d probably still have anger management issues.
Pfft, my bad. Ya’ll know what I mean.
(And how do you know that warriors AREN’T workers?)
Social Justice Workers are pretty much the exact opposite of Social Justice Warriors…
“Social Justice Workers” are always defined by other people reacting to a single action.
Yeeeeeeah. Two things.
As OP who was also diagnosed with autism (but didn’t have to fill out paperwork forsome reason), I can confirm that I have probably already done this at some point or another.
Edited because: Rule #0