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@Whatevs
 
>But maybe the fact that the only fandom site I go to is /mlp/ and occasionally (as in, rarely) ponychan is the problem since I’m exposed to more complaints than praise.
 
>But maybe the fact that the only fandom site I go to is /mlp/
 
>/mlp/
 
THERE’S YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM.
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@gg666  
yes but through it I have gained absolute power.
 
It’s like going to prison and coming out incredibly strong (and a career criminal LOL social commentary)
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@Itsthinking  
I get the impression that you are purposely misunderstanding.
 
My “no compromise” line was facetious since I did follow it up with a compromise at the end.
 
And I have disdain for shoving a character into things and trying to make people accept her as opposed to working on the mane 6.
 
Especially when the mane 6 all have issues with how they are written in the eyes of the fandom that could easily be corrected.
 
Like I said it is “grabbing the wrong end of the stick” or “missing the forest for the trees.”
 
An I take exception to saying that “I need a punching bag.” I never talk about Cadence, much less hate on her. This is the first time.
 
But maybe the fact that the only fandom site I go to is /mlp/ and occasionally (as in, rarely) ponychan is the problem since I’m exposed to more complaints than praise.
 
And yes, that is an invitation to recommending other discussion sites (that arent mlpchan or fimchan)  
They are simply Ponychan with fewer posters.
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@Whatevs  

 
“don’t believe in compromise”
 
Like, in anything? No compromise, period?
 
 
@Background Pony  
Tell me then, why did she get the crown and her friends just get necklaces? Why does “magic make it all complete?” Pretty sure she was supposed to be destined for greater things than her friends.
 
On another note, I just don’t get the “this character is terrible because they haven’t gotten any characterization but I don’t want to see them again” thing. I mean, I guess if you just have to have a punching bag it makes sense, but…
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@Whatevs
 
That was kind of my point. Twilight’s elevation to being the single most special pony in all of history is distinctly at odds with their previously egalitarian message.
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@Itsthinking  
I also dont believe in half measures or compromise.
 
But you make a good point on reflection. If season 4 delivers on the meat of the show then my criticism will be piss in the wind.
 
I’ve only heard Candyass refer to Cadence and both names sound similar so… whatevs
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@Whatevs  
Well, be glad they chose to put “Candyass’s” (I thought this was Bon Bon’s nickname?) story in a book and not on the actual show. As for more flashback episodes, they could be good in moderation, I agree with that.
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@Background Pony  
Just because Twilight is humble doesnt mean that the show isnt focusing too much on her and overrewarding her.
 
 
@Itsthinking  
Like most strawmen it is more complicated than that.  
I stated that I prefer the show when it is about the mane 6 an dislike the Twilight-centrism trend. (Most agree with me but may not have articulated it this far)
 
Cadence breaks both of those.
 
I would rather they devote time and energy to one of the mane 6.
 
For example: Dash and Fluttershy at Flight School, throw in Gilda.
 
Or Rarity growing up with her hick parents.
 
Or Pinkie first coming to Ponyville and how the citizens eventually accepted her after being at first perturbed.
 
Not the origin of Candyass.  
In general I feel that the writers have grabbed the wrong end of the stick with this show and the choices they make are MORE LIKELY to appeal to young men than young girls.
 
The tonal shift has been obvious and it worries me. I could be wrong and I hope I am but I am not optimistic.
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“Just because one has the ability to perform lots of magic does not make one better than the rest of us.” - Rarity
 
“I’m not better than anyone!” - Twilight Sparkle
 
“So, you finally admit that you’re the most talented unicorn in all of Ponyville?” - Spike  
“Well, yeah, but its nothing to brag about…” - Twilight Sparkle
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@Whatevs  
So you don’t like her for acting like a “Sue,” but you also don’t want them to spend any time focusing on her. How do you make a character more realistic without giving them attention and backstory? She’ll be the same character forever if they just forget about her.
 
Why would they “suck up to us?” We’re not the target audience. We don’t even make up a majority of the viewers of the show. They have no reason to.
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@Zennistrad  
making her seem more unbalanced does not hurt my position.
 
My issue with most of the two parters and the season finale is that they suffer from Twilight-centrism when I feel the show is best when she takes a backseat to the more animated and cartoony personalities of the other characters.
 
Because this show is a cartoon about friendship, and focusing on only one of them and beating us over the head with how she is special and becoming more special ruins that
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do we really need to put this in the idw tag, when the only only thing related to the comic books is the image that is used but the meme is totally unrelated
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@gg666  
my complaint is that the show is best when it is a cartoon about 6 friends and their characters.
 
I see no benefit to giving Cadence’s origins and I doubt it will matter.  
I would rather read a story about one of the mane 6 or a more prominent side character than Cadence who I feel is as generic as a character can get (and a bit of a sue)
 
The only thing that will change my mind is if Cadence is popular among the target demographic because then I know they arent sucking up to us (which is my fear, all the changes smell to much of “tryhard coolness” that appeals more to young adults)
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“Compared to Twilight’s magic, the rest of the Mane 6’s abilties barely amount to anything.” A statement that lies, perhaps, close to the heart of the problem.
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@Whatevs
 
She’s also a pony with an inherent magical talent that exceeds every character seen in the show, save the villains.
 
This is why Celestia wanted her as a studend, and eventually Equestria’s new Princess; she had potential that no other unicorn had. (Hatching Spike’s egg was supposed to be impossible according to one of the writers.)
 
Hell, compared to Twilight’s magic, the rest of the Mane 6’s abilties barely amount to anything. They had to turn her to stone in “The Stare Master” and have her spell backfire in “Swarm of the Century” just to prevent her from solving the problem immediately.
Background Pony #7212
While it was hardly my favorite episode, I did like how “Best Night Ever,” handled royalty. :)